Font Weight Changes show in Text Properties Box but not in Document


I am able to change to the light weight by selecting the text → right click → font → show fonts → selecting from the list. The font is open sans.

Is there a workaround to get this to work? Having the light weight is important for the template I’m trying to make in Layouts.

Rhino 7. Mac Ventura 13.0

Welcome rhinókerōs

I’m having a bit of trouble reproducing what you’re reporting here.

Sorry, I’m not following this part:

text → right click → font → show fonts → selecting from the list.

The V7 right-click menu doesn’t have a Font entry, so I’m not sure what to do to follow along.

The font is open sans.

The screenshot shows Arial Regular. I doubt this matter with what you’re reporting, but I just noticed the discrepancy.

You say “Font Weight” but what exact property are you changing? Height?

I think the easiest path is for you to upload a file that demonstrates this and walk me step-by-step though what I need to click…sorry, sometimes this is the only way we can reproduce these.

It’s my hope that this is not a Ventura-only bug. I will be curious to see if we can reproduce this bad behavior in V8 as well.


Hi Dan! So the “style” is Arial Regular, but you can see I have overriden the style defaults in the “font” dropdown.

If you select the text in the properties dialog, then you can right click to get to the “show fonts” menu.

I am changing the “style” of the text as shown in the show fonts menu. I’m not sure what a file could show, though I am happy to upload. The attached image shows the “show font” menu, as well as the discrepancy between the font properties text box (which displays the correct light font style) and what is shown in the actual viewport (the regular weight font).

Hi,

The fonts are supported as they appear in the main Font drop down list above the text edit area.
There the fonts are grouped differently but all/most of the weights should be available by selecting from the drop down list combined with clicking the Bold / Italic buttons. You should use these controls instead of right clicking on the text.

Unfortunately this is not true for the Open Sans font because Rhino could not parse the font correctly for some reason. Is this a font you downloaded from Google Fonts?
The issue is logged here

oh i can reproduce this issue for a long time already, this has been discussed too many times with many people actually complaining about it.

fonts are pretty broken in Rhino since version 6 i believe, in rhino 5 all that still worked before some strange changes where implemented that bricked a lot of fonts, and no @Alain not just open sans, many many others. you logged something yourself i remember

i am sorry if i sound like the pissed guy, but this is a major issue for many years and reading that @dan once again why ever can not reproduce the same issue which was described in miniscule detail plenty of times just boils my blood already.

@dan you have responded to the same issue and never got back after being served an exact step by step process to repeat what is not so difficult to repeat, so what is going on for real?

so many people out there suffer not being able to use their regularly used fonts which are numerous and not downloaded from strange pages, but fonts that are actually pretty expensive and very commonly used. which just dont want to show up in Rhino god(probably being the only one knowing) knows why.

below a few links i believe there are plenty more but i have other things to do either.


and i believe that this older topic might even be related.

Hi Alain,

The drop down list does not offer me light/regular distinction. I need that.

I was using Open Sans as downloaded from Google fonts.

I tried uninstalling Open Sans and re-installing from Adobe Fonts via Creative Cloud. I installed the light font first, then the regular. Now only the light font will show up, and I can’t get the regular weight. I don’t have the option in the drop down to pick from the two. (Update: I installed the entire family via creative cloud instead of just the two styles, and now Regular is the default again and I once again cannot get Light to show in the viewport)

Same as before, picking the weight in the “style” section of the fonts pop up will show the correct weight in the properties text box but will not be reflected in the viewport. I understand that you are saying the fonts pop-up is not the correct way to change the weight, in which case (IMO) it should not be an option. I was attempting to use the right click > fonts pop-up because the bold/italic options were not what I was looking for. It seems that font weight is only partly supported.

This seems to be a bug that’s been around for a while. I had seen a post about it from 2017 but had hoped it was resolved by now and that I was doing something wrong.

Thanks

Hi Encephalon,

Thanks for weighing in; this does seem to be a long standing bug. It’s definitely irritating. Thanks for pulling the references for past posts about it.

well yes sorry that i can not contribute anything more positive, i also have no idea why it is so difficult for mcneel guys to commit to this issue properly.

i stopped documenting in rhino because of this… and you should not expect anything to change in those regards. its a secret what is going on and we might not find out too soon, at least nobody is willing to share any insight which is really sad, i mean really sad, with so many people pro actively trying to figure out what is going on and with actually zero feedback.

Hi @rhinókerōs,

FWIW Open Sans works fine in Rhino 7 (or 8) Windows.

More specifically the variable font version downloadable from Google, showing file version 3.003. The download also includes static font versions for software that can’t handle variable fonts.

If you have the variable font versions (basically two files, one for regular fonts, the other for italics) then you could try uninstalling them and installing all the static files and see if they work better. Or if you have the static fonts, try uninstalling them and installing the variable versions.

I’m sorry but I don’t have a Mac to explore that side of the font divide myself!

if i remember correctly some fonts work on pc and not on mac and vice versa

found the post from @petumatr