I am working on a fairly large drawing ,I created a new layout.I clicked on the layout i had just created and all my layouts suddenly went blank,After some panicking i discovered that if i CTRL-A then ZSA the layout comes back but if i close the drawing and reopen all the layouts are blank again…
Hi - I’m not sure if you are describing that the view in the Layouts have shifted so that the actual layout no longer is in view and that selecting all (details?) and zooming to selected then brings it back in view or if you still see the “paper” but no details?
Please start by running the Rhino SystemInfo command and copy-paste the result here.
-wim
Hi,
Sometimes i cannot select any of the layout tabs and have to close and reopen Rhino.
I know the Intel GFX driver is old but there is no HP Update for it.
This is what i am getting until i select all and ZSA to bring it back.
It should be like…
Rhino 6 SR32 2020-12-5 (Rhino 6, 6.32.20340.21001, Git hash:master @ f0da95af49009959d0100568acb11aea288bcea0)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-12-05
License details: Cloud Zoo. In use by: Jason ()
Windows 10.0.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-RT0DAQK
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 5-5-2020 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro T2000 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 12-11-2020 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.89
> Integrated acclerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 12-11-2020
Driver Version: 27.21.14.6089
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB
Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
Not long after this i exited the block editor and all elements of my drawing dissapeared,Layout paper was there but none of my objects…
I ran Audit and it reported that my objects were there,Luckily i only lost 1/2 hour or work…
Hello - if you see a layout correctly, what happens if you Zoom Extents in that layout?
-Pascal
Hi Pascal,
That did work when they dissapeared but…
I just exited block editor again and boom,All gone again!
_BlockEditApplyInPlaceEditItemChanges
was the last command i ran
All my blocks and layouts have disappeared.
I ran audit and notice
54 object errors detected.
Document Manifest:
Texture Mapping: 0 active, 1 system.
Material: 10 active, 6358 deleted, 2 system.
Line Pattern: 7 active, 3 system.
Layer: 103 active, 40 deleted, 1 system.
Group: 834 active, 76 deleted.
TextStyle: none.
Annotation Style: 14 active, 10 deleted, 7 system.
Light: none.
Hatch Pattern: 9 active, 9 system.
Block: 251 active, 78 deleted.
Model Geometry: Error: 19 errors found. Model: 109085 active, 21 deleted. Manifest: 109086 active, 18 deleted.
Error: 116949 model components (6583 deleted). 23 system components. 116970 manifest items
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
active annotation object has used deleted annotation style.
Audit Summary:
54 object errors detected.
0 linetype table errors detected.
0 layer table errors detected.
0 block table errors detected.
0 font table errors detected.
0 annotation style table errors detected.
Table tally:
103 layers
251 instance definitions
14 annotation styles
0 fonts
7 linetypes
10 rendering materials
Object tally:
1 normal objects
0 locked objects
0 hidden objects
15240 deleted objects (in undo buffer)
109085 block definition objects
0 reference normal objects
0 reference locked objects
0 reference hidden objects
0 reference block definition objects
Audit found problems.
Hello - please send the file to tech@mcneel.com, to my attention, with a link back here in your comments.
-Pascal
@pascal it’s happened again!
But this time i have the file,If you close the blockeditor everything dissapears!
Sending you an email.
It’s just happened again,Twice in this last drawing,Is this ever going to be fixed???
it’s happened again in V7!!!
I was using sectiontools, Rhino crashed,as it does occasionally when creating sections.
I grabbed the Autosave ,Block editor is open ,when i close it everything disappeared.
i have found the drawing inside a block,So i can get the model back but all my layouts are blank!
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+1 here
just went through a painfull reconstruction of all my layouts
@pascal , please, has this ever been addressed?
This is quite a disturbing issue.
Thanks.
Hello- so far we have not, as far as I know, been able to reproduce the problem - can you give me a blow by blow of the steps leading up to the problem?
-Pascal
I will give it a shot, but am afraid, it is improbable as it the issue happened a few weeks and several saved versions ago (and I did not need to use the layouts in the project since - until recently only to find out they’re all completely blank…).
I suspect, there must be some bug allowing some purge-like cleaning up of all the content of the layouts all that running in the background (perhaps during the saving process, maybe when deleting, dunno…).
All the layouts were present - names, setting, all good - but there was nothing in any of them. Not even details, not blocks of titles, texts. Just empty sheets.
There is one more annoying bug though I’ve ran into while re-importing all the original layouts from a previous version of the project. While importing the layout, the system obviously runs through all the block names conflicts between the two files (source and the one I’m importing into) and asks for EVERY LAYOUT what to do with the conflicted instances of blocks. With tens of layouts, this is a hell to go through. And it all seems rendundant or even unnecessary at all, as none of the layouts bears more than a Detail window and a title block with some text. All the relevant (conflicting) blocks are a matter of the Model space, which is something I do not expect Rhino to try to import when aiming just for Layouts…
@pascal
I sent you a file with that exact problem in in april 2021,See 5 posts up…
That must have given some clues.
IIRC it was when closing the block editor too quickly,But it was quite a while ago.
It’s happened again!!!
In Rhino 8!!!
I closed the blockeditor quickly and bang,All gone!!!
Up farther in this thread, you appear to be running Rhino 6. Is that still the case? We’re not going to make any fixes like this in Rhino 6 or 7 since we just launched Rhino 8. There have been some improvements to block editing in Rhino 8, which may resolve this problem for you.
I just said it was in R8!
For this bug to still be an issue is astounding!
hi @Nosaj did this happen while you were editing a layout? Over the years I’ve seen this bug happen in my classes occasionally, but it seems a bug that is hard to reproduce. You mention:
Can you specify this?
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no,I was in model space.
i did a command and then closed the block editor quickly afterwards.
if you look back up this thread you will see i actually send a file to pascal,This was V7 and some time ago
yes I have that thread in front of me. Back then I could repeat it, but right now I can’t.
any extra info you can give is welcome, do you remember the command?
I’m still not sure what ‘quickly’ means in this context. Was the command still running perhaps?