What settings to make shaded same V7 and V5?

Hi,

These shaded modes are very different in V7 with my current settings.
What do I need to alter to get it same as V5, Its a rubber blade and colours are from layers, fine for my needs, and using a dark grey in V5 gave me a good look in all views.
V7 has a metal effect and a very odd end view.

the settings are:-

two clicks for the settings image will make it very readable.

RUBBER BLADE from v7.3dm (51.3 KB)

This is the export from V7 to V5.

I thought I had made such the same in display modes, having gone through each mode.

I now have unticked ‘show isocurves’ and also ‘show clipping planes’ but the views shown remain as such !

Cheers

Steve

Hi,
I cant progress with V7 until this pronblem is solved and just about to start a new project but need to solve this, so having yet again to use V5.

Please anyone what is the fix to this shading problem ?

Steve

Hi Steve -
Too many things have changed in the display code to make it possible to have a viewport look 100% the same in Rhino 5 as it does in Rhino 7.

From the factory-default Shaded display mode in Rhino 7…

checking the Use Advanced GPU lighting gets this closer to your look from Rhino 5 on my system

… but since this says “GPU”, it’s always possible this does something else on your system.
-wim

Hi Wim,
It made a slight change for the better, the BURNOUT of reflections (very un real) is lessened a little but not the visually better and usable V5.
Thanks for that.

So burnout shaded mode is default it would seem.

What does V8 do with it ?

I always wanted V5 shaded mode to be improved, as on the non visible side of objects the shades were better, but V7 has gone the other way.

I used to find if I had a sunken hole in a cube, looking at it in ortho view one couldnt see the hole at all, in reality we would have had a shadow inside the hole.

I see that V7 doesnt improve on that, what setting to place a shadow in the hole ?


Ignore the grey edge, I cannot turn off such edges in V7, for a photo real display they wouldnt be on. No shadow though again.

How does one remove the dark edges and other lines in V7 ?

and what does V8 show for such ?

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve -

Just as in Rhino 5, you turn the “Edge Thickness” to 0. In Rhino 7, this setting is found on the Rhino Options > View > Display Modes > Shaded > Objects > Surfaces page.

That requires the Shadows On option to be enabled on the [...] > Shaded > Shadows page.

In Rhino 7, when you turn off the environment and the gloss color in the dialog that appears when you click the Customize… button for “Custom material” on the main [...] > Shaded page, you get something like this:

-wim

Hi
edges…thanks…a bit of a backwater setting but found it, edges sorted.

Shadows, turned it on, got a crescent in my hole, however the inner face of the sunken hole would be a bit darker being inside the cube, so a grey crescent doesnt show the ‘user’ or ‘client’ a hole as such.

I then adjusted some sliders, made no difference, set them back to their defaults, and the crescent never came back. (had a photoshop screen capture before I meddled with their settings), and despite exit shadows and try again, there is no crescent at all now.

turn off Gloss…loses the realistic reflectiveness, too deadpan. Needs a sheen option. for metallics. The burnout is too much in V7.

I also test for lighting location in V7
Create a cube and give it dark grey.
If one allocates it to the black layer one gets BRIGHT WHITE. thats nuts anyway.

anyhow…then I clone and rotate in increments of 10 degrees, downwards upwards, then sideways another set.
same for V5.
and whilst V5 has one light source, in V7 the lights are in 3 locations, that is very non the real world, mother nature has one, the sun, also very non photo studio setup (two brollies if that, one set stronger than the other. )
3 equal light sources is NOT RIGHT.

How does one tell V7 there is one light source in the environment or room ?

Cheers

Steve

This is the Rhino 5 default for the Shaded display mode:
image

The same way as you must have done that in Rhino 5.
Rhino Options > View > Display Modes > Shaded → Lighting scheme → Custom lighting → Customize…
image

-wim

Hi,
I have never dabbled in the lighting area at all, so someone has meddled with it in V7.
Yet another thing that needs fixing.
I am spending all my time fixing things that worked before.

I shall alter V7 to one light as V5.
Someone has definitely decided to make it very diffferent.
here is the difference.

if it betters the reflections as well, all will be good.

I wish there was a button that said set as V5 !

I am still fixing the basics to get functional with it.

Cheers

Steve

Now made same as V5 default, and…
RESULT

many Thanks
one light dominant.

No 3 light source white burnouts…

Steve