mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 21, 2023, 10:47am
1
Hello,
I just installed V-Ray 6 hotfix 2 from Chaos, installation is ok, but then I get a error message when Rhino starts (cf. image below).
I already followed the advices and suggestions from this topic, but no luck so far : V-ray for rhino won't start
Any clue ?
Best regards,
Mathieu
Gijs
(Gijs de Zwart)
February 21, 2023, 11:28am
2
What do the details say? Is your Rhino up to date as well?
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 21, 2023, 11:41am
3
Details doesn’t say much :
I’m running Rhino 7 SR27 (2023-02-01), and updated all my Rhino installations (6 / 7 / 8 WIP) with the latest installers on rhino3d.com
Gijs
(Gijs de Zwart)
February 21, 2023, 11:46am
4
@Nikolay do you have an idea what might be causing this?
Nikolay
(Nikolay Bakalov)
February 21, 2023, 12:01pm
5
Most probably the visual C++ redistributable, however we did not updated the buildtime version.
download here https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe
It might be duet to a dependency of the V-Ray core.
Mind that the message “Dependent DLL is out of date” is coming from Rhino, not V-Ray, and it most probably gets it from LoadLibraryW(), which is notoriously difficult to debug.
I usually use gflags to debug these soft of things.
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 21, 2023, 1:04pm
6
Just reinstalled the vc_redist.x64 and reboot, still the same error at loading.
Here is my SystemInfo output, if it can help :
Rhino 7 SR27 2023-2-1 (Rhino 7, 7.27.23032.13001, Git hash:master @ 4a0030c0d354560df03764f4f49ecc5d119e5118)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-02-01
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 10 (10.0.14393 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 24Gb)
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 9-13-2021 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 472.12
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Secondary graphics devices.
Microsoft Basic Display Adapter (AMD) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 6-21-2006 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- This device is not being used
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU's maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 9-13-2021
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7212
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Orca3D V2\\Orca3D.rhp "Orca3D" 2.0.23.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp "Commands" 7.27.23032.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp "Renderer Development Kit"
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp "Rhino Render" 7.27.23032.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp "RDK_EtoUI" 7.27.23032.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp "Renderer Development Kit UI"
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp "Snapshots"
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp "RhinoCycles" 7.27.23032.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp "Grasshopper" 7.27.23032.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp "Toolbars" 7.27.23032.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp "3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp "Displacement"
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp "Calc"
Nikolay
(Nikolay Bakalov)
February 21, 2023, 2:19pm
7
OK…
try disabling extensions that do not ship with Rhino. I see that it is only Orca3D, so give it a quick try.
It happened before with some weird software, installing and registering globally DLLs that are incompatible with V-Ray.
If that doesn’t fix it, are you OK contacting Chaos support team ? They can arrange a remove session, and I can join to check what’s going on.
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 21, 2023, 2:42pm
8
Same error when starting with Orca disabled.
Ok to check with Chaos support team, I created a ticket : #88676
Nikolay
(Nikolay Bakalov)
February 21, 2023, 2:47pm
9
Do you by chance have installed software called ChiTuBox ?
shooting in the dark, really, but that was causing problems before
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 21, 2023, 2:59pm
10
Nope, not this one.
Long time ago I had MakerBot Desktop, but uninstall from a while now.
Nikolay
(Nikolay Bakalov)
February 21, 2023, 3:36pm
11
Ok, the support guys will take care
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 23, 2023, 1:49pm
12
Hello, Chaos support had a look by remote session today, but didn’t find out.
So, they advice to make a clean install of Rhino without any additional plugins, which I did, but I still get the same “dependent dll out of date” error on start, even with this new fresh install…
Nikolay
(Nikolay Bakalov)
February 23, 2023, 5:53pm
13
There was a misunderstanding. The idea was I to look in and debug ot site. Can I have another session with your system ?
I’ll talk to then tomorrow
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
February 23, 2023, 6:17pm
14
Hello Nikolay, I updated the teamviewer credentials on the ticket #88676
Nikolay
(Nikolay Bakalov)
March 9, 2023, 12:04pm
15
The problem seems to originate in the Windows system libraries.
The OS is Windows 10 LTSB 2016, and the SetThreadDescription which VRayForRhino.rhp calls is not directly exposed from kernel32.dll, but only thru GetProcAddress-ing kernelbase.dll, which we don’t do.
According to MSDN (SetThreadDescription function (processthreadsapi.h) - Win32 apps | Microsoft Learn )
the problem is fixed in later versions of Windows
I guess updating your Windows to something more contemporary will fix the issue.
The version after 1607 is 1703, but I guess that is not available with Windows Update and it will download the latest - 2604 (22H2).
The support guy will write you with more details.
mat.venot
(Mathieu Venot)
March 9, 2023, 12:33pm
16
Hello Nikolay,
I was thinking about the same cause, good to know and thanks for your investigation.
I will see how I can simply upgrade my Windows 10 then.
Thanks again for your help and feedback.