Silent crashes at Rhino startup

VisualARQ
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Has anyone else experienced silent crashes when running Rhino and VisualARQ Beta? The exact reasons are unknown to me, but this is not the first VA Beta to cause this type of problem. For some reason (possibly the VA panels - Levels and Sections), Rhino loads Tibidabo and Grasshopper immediately. I did not change the default template to VisualARQ. It doesn’t happen every time, but quite often.

VisualARQ 3.0.3.18206

System Info

Rhino 8 SR4 2024-2-6 (Rhino 8, 8.4.24037.15001, Git hash:master @ bee9cb852c752350676ca6bc7f3f6946b5bbc6b7)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-02-06
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET Framework 4.8.9181.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [97% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 5-24-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.98
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 5-24-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.98
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-15-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-24-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3598
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 11520 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.3.2.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\VisualARQ.rhp “VisualARQ”
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\23.6.0.0\bella_rhino.rhp “Bella” 23.6.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\Desktop\Rhino_7_Win_2023.0417\HDRLightStudioTexture.rhp “HDRLightStudioTexture”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Crayon (39629248-4fa6-47b8-83c7-745a7efea259)\1.2.0.0\Crayon\Crayon.rhp “Crayon” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Rhino immediately loads Grasshopper at the start and it just shuts down after a while.

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That’s correct. Rhino will automatically load the owner plugins of the panels you had opened when Rhino was closed.

So, there is no Crash Report dialog?

Enric

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No crash report that I’m familiar with (also no sad Rhino with the tech contact dialog). But I found something in \AppData\Local\CrashDumps : Rhino.exe.8792.dmp maybe it will be useful? It’s 186 MB but I can send it to you.

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Does the modified time of this DMP file match one of those crashes?

If yes, please, zip it and send it to me (visualarq@asuni.com) using WeTransfer (or a similar service) so I can take a look.

Thanks,

Enric

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I’ve sent you the crash file. I think it’s correlated to the Rhino startup problem because time roughly matches and I didn’t have any other Rhino crashes this evening.

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Hi @Czaja,

It doesn’t seem to be a VisualARQ related crash. The only thing that I see is that the .NET framework is crashing while the Garbage Collector is being called.

What I see is that there are a lot of Grasshopper add-ons loaded, and that your Rhino 8 is configured to use the legacy .NET Framework runtime. Can you please try to change it to the default .NET Core runtime? There is a command SetDotNetRuntime to change the .NET runtime.

Enric

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I changed it on purpose, don’t remember why. I don’t remember exactly but it solved one of my problems with Hops components / Rhino inside Revit. I will try to set it to default, but also I hope to not jump between versions to make different parts of Rhino work :). Thanks, I will experiment with it.