Saving Custom UI Layout.. Keeps re-arranging. Rhino 7


Rhino 7 - I customized my UI a bit and every time i load up Rhino it keeps slightly re organizing the panels…? Any help on making that not happen?

Hello - do you have one, or more than one RUI file open? It looks like one to me but just making sure (Options > Toolbar page)
And, are you using a single monitor or multiple displays? Here, arranging things as in your image sticks between sessions so far.

@whitie925 , can you provide the exact Windows build information from Windows’ System Information?



Hi Pascal,

Many thanks for the helpful info. I wasn’t aware that you could have more that one rui open…? What would be the point of that?

I did notice that when rhino opens… if i select a template then things open fine with panels in the correct position… if i let rhino open the default template on its own, it re arranges the panels… Is this odd?

Yes. Thanks for that detail.
@whitie925 - are you selecting a template from the splash, when it works right? And, if you open Rhino without selecting a template, is it opening with a default template that you’ve previously set,

or truly no template at all?


Hey @pascal - Reviving this b/c I’m running into same problem, with toolbars not sticking where they should, after many a month of them being fine. They do go back to the “same wrong” position, which is like my computer sticking its tongue out at me :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Recent changes:

  • Downloaded RH8 WIP, and created starting window setup (which opens the correct way)
  • Docked some SubD toolbars
  • Created new toolbar with couple new buttons, etc.
  • Updated to newest RH7 Release

I believe I do have multiple RUI’s going on here, but truthfully, I’e always been a bit confused by the toolbars, groups, rui, etc. And I do have two monitors going, and two GPUs (though one is RTX2070 and one is RTX3060) with one monitor in Portrait mode. This is not new, though.


EDIT: Was able to basically start from scratch (closing a bunch of the toolbars in the Options window) and then reopened one by one. Seems to be working ok now. Think it’s maybe some unique quirk?

Rhino 7 SR18 2022-5-4 (Rhino 7, 7.18.22124.03001, Git hash:master @ b2a1120bcb32e1f6da66a421cd7162a18a9f0cd9)
License type: Commercial, build 2022-05-04
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10.0.19044 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (NVidia) Memory: 12GB, Driver date: 4-20-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 512.59
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0

Secondary graphics devices.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 4-20-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 1-22-2020 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-20-2022
Driver Version:
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 12 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\alanf\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\IntelDenoiser\0.6.4\IntelDenoiser.Windows.rhp “IntelDenoiser.Windows”
C:\Users\alanf\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SubstanceImporter\2.0.3\Substance.Win.rhp “SubstanceImporter”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.18.22124.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.18.22124.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.18.22124.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.18.22124.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.18.22124.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Users\alanf\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SectionTools\2021.4.30.511\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Hi Alan - can you post a screen shot of Options > Toolbars?


I cleaned it up, which I think helped the situation.
Plus I had a couple RUIs from a different location on my computer, which I brought into the default folder location - could that have effected it?

Here’s what I have now, though.

Hi Alan - what might help is to

  1. Save default as default_alan.rui ort something like that.
  2. Import the toolbars you need from the other three rui files into that saved-as file.
  3. Close the other three.


THanks, I’ll try that.

Follow-up (and apologies if this is a sep topic):

I have a “Pop-Up” toolbar I made, but it’s in a diff Toolbar (Group?) How would I go about getting just that grouping (small-g) into my default_Alan.rui?

EDIT: Do I make #2 happen from the Workspace Editor, or from the Toolbar Option window?

EDIT: Ah, hate when I figure something out after asking! – For others, here’s what I learned:

  1. From the Options>Toolbars window, Highlight the new default_Name
  2. Got to File > Import Toolbars…
  3. A window will appear asking “Select groups to import:” and you’ll get a bunch of checkboxes below it to choose from (incl a “Check All” button below)
  4. The selected Imported Toolbars (including the selected Groups) will pop up on the screen. (This is part I didn’t know about)
  5. Swap the Old Toolbars you have on the Rhino interface with these newly Imported Toolbars.
  6. In Options>Toolbars window, Close all the other toolbars except for “default_Name”

Hope my being a dumb-dumb about this ends up helping someone else :grinning: