Hmm, maybe not. I don’t think I bought you your Rhino license either… (:
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Bummer well it was worth a shot 
Never dual booted before whats the best tutorial for linux you can recommend?
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I would start with a live distro for testing. Get a fast USB stick that is at least 16GB in size, then get different distros to try out at a time. A list in no particular order:
- Debian
- Ubuntu
- PopOS is used by artists a lot
- Kubuntu is what I am running currently - I like the KDE Plasma environment better than what Ubuntu offers itself by default
- Linux Mint I used for more than a decade, like this the best I think
- Arch / Fedore if you want to be a troublemaker
To be honest I like mostly debian-based systems, but most of all those with a good tabbed window manager like i3 or similar.
Anyway, a USB device with an ISO from any of those gets you started. Just boot your system of the USB device and try out the different distros. No need to install anything just yet.
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Thanks!
I actually use steam deck steam os sometimes to watch movies i think its based on Arch i really like the interface fast and easy to use, will check the different ones for the pc.
I have an old 1 tb portable disk with usb 3.0 should have enough speed i think
I think it is going to be easier to use a USB stick or something similar to test ISO images. I don’t think it is useful to make a bootable USB drive out of a 1TB drive just for testing - but that is of course fully up to you (:
I am currently on Kubuntu because it had the best Out Of The Box support for my Lenovo laptop (on which I am currently typing here) - the discrete Nvidia GPU, network setup, etc.
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Happy to assist if you tell us what’s wrong 
bug reports always appreciated
also on kde wayland
have you tried new kronhkite?
I just remembered why it is not great: nvidia. I suppose I haven’t put enough time into trying to get it to run properly with the closed source drivers, but these days I don’t like tinkering with my systems too much. I just need to get work done. Back in the day when I had time it wasn’t a problem (:
No, looks cool. But a bit too much of the lack of time to properly venture into other solutions
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totally get that - after using Gentoo, you’ve more than earned the break
I just noticed that our setups are similar (kde wayland on an nvidia optimus lenovo laptop), so if any issues come up, maybe we can help each other troubleshoot
but yeah, it can be timeconsuming sometimes, it did get easier with AI these days though (if you don’t mind big tech learning a bit about your internals)
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Just for Ubuntu Desktop has more than 6 million monthly active users (based on devices checking for desktop-specific updates and not including those behind a corporate firewall or proxy).
Ubuntu Desktop: charting a course for the future | Ubuntu
Just saying it is not a small crowd, and it is getting bigger.
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Next year is the year of Desktop on Linux.
I’ve heard the year after that is when Wayland will finally support NVidia proprietary drivers.
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By math that means at least 2 more years.
To be useful it should’ve happened aeons ago.
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It’s been two more years forever and will be two more years for a long time to come.
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I was going to draw a parallel with FSD, but yours is more neutral
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@Helvetosaur What exactly are you bringing to the discussion apart from repeatedly arguing that nobody will use Rhino on Linux in a thread populated by people that want to use Rhino on Linux and then setting the bar at McNeel needing $100M of users to support Linux?
@nathanletwory : THANK YOU! I didn’t mean to imply that everyone at McNeel was being unhelpful. What I meant to say is that even if McNeel doesn’t want to fully support a Linux version of Rhino, just a Wiki guide on running Rhino under a bottle/container/VM or through a compatibility layer such as WINE or Proton would be a huge step forward for McNeel. An upfront discussion of what is preventing Rhino from running on Linux (from a library standpoint, I assume it is an issue with a heavy dependence on .NET or something of the sort?) would also be helpful. Throw minimal resources at the problem but give your users a place to have the discussion and occasionally peek in to see if they are doing anything cool.
@Winer: I’m not suggesting we need a full port, just some kind of McNeel Wiki page where everyone can bring together current working solutions so it is easy for new people who are curious about running Rhino in Linux to do so. VMs are fine, but we are assuming that Microsoft licensing is sane/doesn’t require obnoxious workarounds.
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On the larger scale, converting your whole office from MS (or Mac for a large part) is totally doable. I’m no more of an expert than I need to be to get the functions I want. This is a compilation of programs running on two computers in our home office and a couple of the machines at my University. I hope this helps some folks decide to slip the surly bonds of MS.
I have R7 running on Wine and R8 in a virtual machine. I went the VM route when Wine updates broke Rhino. I fixed it but I’ve kept the VM version as a backup anyway.
Anecdotally Wine seems faster but still has the regenerating viewports issue [0]. I also can’t seem to get multi-monitor working in my VM, (KVM / QEMU) [1] so when I’m doing Grasshopper I stick to Wine.
- Everything in LibreOffice replaces MSOffice directly - and in many cases has better functionality [2]. Plus they’re not jamming “AI” into every possible corner.
- The free LibreOffice Draw is far better than the online MS Visio that comes with a standard MS365 subscription, and there aren’t a lot of features that paid Visio beats it on anyway.
- The print slicers we use for our Elegoo machines (3d printing wax positives for jewelry casting) run natively on Linux.
- PreForm (which we use for our Form3) works on stock Wine, as do a digital sculpting program we use and VRay.
- Blender is Linux native, and works great for a lot of solid modeling and motion tracking of footage that can’t be done otherwise. Not to mention it’s an impressive fully-featured model-to-post-production animation platform. Unity also has a Linux-native version.
- Now that Gimp 3.0+ has nondestructive workflows it’s basically a drop-in replacement for Photoshop, especially with a config file to alter your keybindings to match ps. Inkscape is a 1:1 replacement for Illustrator, and Scribus for InDesign. The only downside there is if you use InCopy for text editing, but I’m sure there are workarounds with other programs (I just haven’t looked).
- Darktable is a drop-in replacement for Lightroom, and even has some advantages.
- Even the free version of Davinci Resolve works great, although it has limitations on file output. If you pay for it those go away. I’m able to overcome this with the Linux-native command line program ffmpeg - which is magical if you know how to (or can get an LLM to, tbh) write the terminal commands the right way.
- As for code - VSCode is Linux native, as is the FOSS VSCodium. You can install extensions from VS or VSCode in it. [3]
In other programs, Linux-native FreeCAD just released a MAJOR update. I haven’t gotten to take it head-to-head against Revit yet, but early feedback from others on the BIM Workbench are positive. I doubt it replicates all the functionality of Revit, but I’ll let you know when I get the chance to try a project in it.
That’s just some anecdotal evidence from one user managing a few computers. I’m sure there’s plenty else to mention. Feel free to reply with your setups which do the same, or with questions about mine.
[0] Which I’ve just developed tics to work around.
[1] I know it’s fixable, but I’ve tried multiple and don’t really have more time to hack on it when I don’t -really- need it.
[2] Tabbing in Writer, the whole Impress program, etc.
[3] I still haven’t figured out the perfect workflow for writing Grasshopper component libraries there, but I’m going to sort that soon. The only hangup is writing for R7 because there’s no .NET 4.8 for Linux and Mono won’t do the trick.
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FSD = Full Self-Driving ?
fairs, I would like to see that too
lots of good advice has been shared on this thread, my top picks would be:
anything aaronsb touched: GitHub - aaronsb/rhino-wine and Rhino3D 7 on Linux · GitHub
Tommi P. Laiho: Rhino on Linux? - #580 by Tommi_P_Laiho1
duanemclemore: Rhino on Linux? - #416 by duanemclemore
rna design hub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76xqUbO1Gc
my scribbles: Rhino on Linux? - #321 by Winer
are you thinking of deploying this in an office like environment? I think that’s still doable in a way thin clients are deployed, which seems to be a Virtual Desktop Access (vda) type of license
if it’s just for personal use though, I don’t think licensing is much of an issue?
ooo interesting, thanks, totally missed that
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Yes.