Rhino Closing While Trying To Open Files

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

So I am having trouble with Rhino closing 1 to 3 times when I am trying to load or switch files. I thought that the problem had something to do with the Plugin that I recently installed.

Having trouble with the Beaver Plugin Closing Rhino

I recently tried downloading the Beaver plugin. I went through the installation process and realized that after I installed it I needed a License. So I sent them an email asking for a license. I am still waiting for a response. My problem is that it closes Rhino when I try opening a file. After 2 or 3 times of trying to open the file it works. After trying to deal with this for a few days I decided to try and uninstall Beaver. I removed it from the PackageInstaller and I cant find it in the Pack…

But after figuring out how to remove it, it continued having the same problem.
The only thing that I can think of at the moment that I changed other than adding that plugin was that I recently upgraded to Windows11. Could that Have something to do with it?
Here’s a few screenshots.

Opening File

Working on loading The file

Rhino closed
Trying Again on the same file

Loading

Successfully loads

Something to note also is that when I try to open a file from this stage to, I have the same problem.
I am using Rhino7 Educational with Windows11
I do have enough processing power as far as I know.
Does anyone know what is going on here?

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi Ryan -

@Ryan14

I recently upgraded to Windows11. Could that Have something to do with it?

That could certainly have something to do with things, yes.
In the Windows Control Panel, please find Rhino 7 and pick the Repair option. Does that help anything?
-wim

[Japhy]

Can you post your SystemInfo? This is similar to the recent AMD driver issues (turn off GPU Tessellation)

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Not sure quite what you are referring to but here are some screenshots I took that might answer your question.
Something to note. CPU is unchecked on the other page in the below screenshot.

When I started Rhino Normally, opening a file from the Recent files list that comes up during the startup.
Running the TaskManager next to it.

It closed right after I took this screenshot.

[Japhy]

My bad, please type SystemInfo into the Rhino command line and post the results here.

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Okay, here it is

Rhino 7 SR24 2022-11-4 (Rhino 7, 7.24.22308.15001, Git hash:master @ cb2ad12922ceb989b185972675bb705a00abb97d)
License type: Educational, build 2022-11-04
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 9-5-2020 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 5-5-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 512.78
> Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-5-2022
Driver Version: 30.0.15.1278
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino 6 & 7\SnSPro_Rhino_6+7.rhp “Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\Tracy\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Lumion LiveSync for Rhino (839d6175-32d1-4ffe-a0a4-b7fb43cf0ff5)\2021.3.25.899\Lumion\Rhino 7.0\LumionPlugin.rhp “Lumion LiveSync for Rhino”
C:\Users\Tracy\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\Karamba3D\2.2.0.171\Karamba3D_LicensePlugin_Rhino7.rhp “Karamba3DLicense”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.24.22308.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoLabsTools.rhp “Rhino Labs Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.24.22308.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.24.22308.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.24.22308.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.24.22308.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi Ryan -
When you launch Rhino without opening a specific file, does it then always start successfully?
-wim

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Yes it does as far as I know.

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

@Ryan14

Yes it does as far as I know.

Thanks, that means it’s file-specific.
When you launch Rhino, create a simple box in a factory-default template and save that file to your desktop, does Rhino have problems opening that file again later?
-wim

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

That worked well!

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Thanks.
What happens when you disable the Lumion plug-in, restart Rhino, and then try to open one of your other models?
-wim

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

It still closed. First thing on the command line was Blocking Lumion Plugin. Not quite the exact words.
Here is another screenshot before it closed.

[Japhy]

Ryan, Can you ensure that your using the Nvidia card per these instructions? Thanks.

Soooo, you bought a laptop with hybrid graphics and rhino doesn't run right. READ THIS

Hybrid graphics laptops are more and more common if you buy a consumer grade machine. (I recommend buying a mobile workstation for professional modeling but these hybrid machines are quite prevalent in the consumer market, especially for students.) They tend to generate a TON of tech support here because of the way they are set up from the factory. Hybrid systems are built with 2 graphics processors. A low power graphics chip (typically Intel HD or UHD) and a high power graphics card. However…

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Looks like it

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi Ryan -
Can you post or upload (Rhino - Upload to Support) a file that makes Rhino close?
-wim

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Here is a file. I wasn’t sure where to find your email so I’ll just post it here.
It didn’t seem to matter what file I opened.
12 by 16’ cabin with 8’ addition and loft.3dm (19.9 MB)

[Frits1956]

I have since a few months the same “problem” but not always and only the first time I start Rhino. I am using V6

My Sys info
Rhino 6 SR32 2020-12-5 (Rhino 6, 6.32.20340.21001, Git hash:master @ f0da95af49009959d0100568acb11aea288bcea0)
License type: Educational, build 2020-12-05
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 10.0.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 24Gb)
Machine name: FRITS-LAPTOP-HP

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [96% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) HD Graphics 530 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 10-17-2017 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M (NVidia) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 9-23-2021 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 472.19
> Integrated acclerated graphics device with 1 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 9-23-2021
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7219
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 2 GB

Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.32.20340.21001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Mine seems quite random, like not just at startup. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Even between switching files it will do it. So confusing

[Ryan14 (Ryan)]

Is that what you were looking for?