Online Help - open with navigation WISH / Improvement

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the rhino online help uses a Frame Layout. As far is I understand, not the latest concept - but i do not care (let s not discuss this aspect).
But what i am missing it the nice link at the bottom of the old Rh 5 - online help
“Open topic with navigation”

can we please have this link back for Rhino 6 and Rhino 7.

This link is really esential, for using Google-Search on the Help-Page - as google will find the inner Frame page - and not the navigation.

google hits for “rhino help move” …

→ open with navigation at the bottom

→ navigation missing…

if i want to find other Transform Commands or see the context of the command the user is lost…
Thanks - best regards -tom

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did somebody have a look at this ?
@pascal
@Verena
thanks

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Dear @pascal and @Gijs

this is still the case - search for any rhino command
“rhino3d help patch”
and google will find the inner help topic / html.

please add an “open with navigation link” for all pages.
Please do it for the V7 and V8 version of the help as google will stuck for the old pages for quite some time … some hits still point to the V5 help

thanks, kind regards -tom

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still no attention on this topic…

google will lead me to this link for example:
https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/8/help/en-us/information/polygonmeshsettings.htm

also see here

thanks - Tom

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hi Tom, I’ll ask what can be done.

looks the difference is

https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/7/help/en-us/index.htm#commands/bridge.htm
vs
https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/7/help/en-us/commands/bridge.htm

DOC-388 Help file is found without index

@Tom_P this is now fixed for Rhino 7 and 8,

Since this is not (yet) fixed for Rhino 5 and since that help file comes up at the top of searches, a new yt is made:
RH-83135 Rhino 5 links found on google need an index

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great to see this fixed.

maybe we should start a general discussion about redesigning the help ?

Treeview

from left to right
rhino 5 help
rhino 8 help - new Design summer 2024
RhinoCommon API - new Design late 2023 (?)

I think the collapsable / Tree view from the API is the nicest, most readable and least amount of space.
I would love to see the same layout / style / treeview on all mcneel docs.

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@Tom_P
The authoring tool used for Rhino Help does not provide the type of skin (template) used by RhinoCommon API docs. I’ll submit a request to the development team of the authoring tool.

@KelvinC

looks like this issue was fixed for the english version only ?
even worth - if you try to change the language from english to german by editing the address your lost without navigation again.

the de-de link will not show the navigation.
the en-us link will

https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/8/help/de-de/commands/bridge.htm
https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/8/help/en-us/commands/bridge.htm

thanks for having a look at this again.

came across this, because of this topic asking for a language switcher.

@Tom_P
Only the English and Korean Help websites have been updated to use the new skin. It will happen in the rest languages when the translators update their files. Thank you.