Newer Nvidia GPU Crashes - I finally have a workaround

Not seen much about this problem, but I have been having an ongoing problem with GPU crashes. I’m using Rhino 7 with Veesus Point Clouds for Rhino on Win10 Pro, and with older Nvidia GTX cards (I have a 970 in a desktop and a 980 in a chunky laptop) I seldom get crashes.

I have another newer laptop with an RTX 2080, and a new desktop with an RTX 4090 but frequently get crashes - no warning, no dump file, etc, Rhino just closes after a little freeze. All the PCs have max RAM etc and fast preocessors.

The workaround is to go to Tools / Options / View / OpenGL and drag the Level slider to the left. With the older cards, the level is far right - ie max - ie OPenGL 4.6, but for the newer cards, I have to drag it one stop left, to OpenGL 3.3.

There is a little bit in Rhino help that explains the uise of the Level slider to workaround graphics problems, but (having used Rhino since 2003) I was unaware of this little tool, and nobody in support has ever suggested it to me.

Anyway, the GPU performance isn’t as good as I thought I was buying but at least I don’t get constant crashes anymore. Currently, this workaround doesn’t work in the Rhino 8 WIP.

Any chance of somebody at McNeel looking into this please - it would be good to have things working better straight out of the box with modern hardware.

Hi Jonnie -

Does Rhino crash when Veesus is disabled in the plug-in manager and Rhino restarted after that?
Also, please run the Rhino SystemInfo command and copy-paste the result here.

Hello Vim,

I’ve not tried it with Veesus disabled because I need to use the Veesus plugin almost all the time. Veesus don’t think it’s a poroblem at their end. I’ve run SystemInfo and sent it to support before but it never seems much help. Like I said, GTX 970 / 980 no problems, RTX 2080 / 4090 a lot of crashes un less I lower the level to OpenGL 3.3, which seems ludicrous with these really powerful graphics cards, but it works now. I’m a bit busy this week but can post system info next week when I’ve got the work out of the way.


Hi Vim

Tried the solution you mentioned, however it didn’t work on my side. Constant crash while rendering via VIA has been a major issue for this week .

Um, odds are it’s at their end. THEY need to determine if it’s their problem or not, McNeel don’t have every obscure 3rd-party plugin on hand to test.

Hello, it’s not an obscure plugin, its the only way to work properly with pointclouds in Rhino, as far as I am aware, but if anyone knows of others with comparable functionality, please let me know. I don’t know where the problem lies, I just want things to work, I just got tired of constanty losing any unsaved work - and I do save frequently, but you can get a lot done in 10 or 15 minutes between saves.

Have attached the sysinfo, hope it is helpful
Rhino7_SysInfo_PCSpecialist-RTX2080_20230716.txt (2.5 KB)

Of COURSE it’s obscure, Rhino is “obscure,” any plugin for it besides, I dunno, V-Ray, is going to be even moreso.

Not too much to gleam from sysinfo, other than the only non-standard thing you’re using is this plugin. Have you been submitting the crash reports, that would hint at where it’s coming from?