I’m equally excited and terrified that you decided to do something about workspaces. Before I found some time to see what functional problems you have addressed, I want to bring this to your attention. This might seem trivial to you, but trust me, it’s not:
Look at the difference between V7 and V8 on padding & toolbar expansion arrows:
Thanks for pointing this out. Not that small, I didn’t want to go into the pixel-level feedback since it has obviously not been designed yet. Clearly a very rough prototype created by a non-visual programmer.
I just wanted to point out early all the out-of-bound behavior. V8 needs to be a visual improvement from V7 and this current work hints otherwise.
Another major regression with the new vertical-only tabs on panels: AFAIK they can only be places on the very far edge of the screen, right edge on this case, which adds some tremendously long commutes to my constant mouse travel. compared to having them on top, or even vertical, but letting put them on the left edge.
V8 is a massive port of UI stuff to Eto, as I have understood it, to make Rhino more crossplatforn identical. But so far I also dislike the looks of it and am worried that these prototypes eventually end up in the release version,because at some time McNeel will run out of time and need to get V8 out of the door. I’m sure the UI is not going to stop this, since Metal for Mac is the leading factor.
I wonder if Eto has enough graphical tools to be able to address all the issues. The ‘little issue’ pointed out by @PowerShape to me is a huge issue. Also the four dots on all toolbars are for me a huge distraction.
It would be reassuring if the visual aspects of the UI get addressed regularly in upcoming updates and not be considered minor while we move towards the point of a release candidate.
I understand that McNeel is not very sophisticated when it comes to visual design and UX, and I can live with that. I can live with ‘good enough’ when there are so many other reasons to use Rhino that make it worthwhile.
However, the regressions I’m seeing now in V8 are not something I can live with. And I’m not sure they realize how bad and serious this is for those of us who work extensively using their software. This worries me.
I like the vertical tabs but there needs to be an option on which side to dock them. Having them forced to the outside of the viewport means there is extra mouse travel required to access them. In V7 I have the UI configured for minimal travel to access pretty much everything.