Love for McNeel

Still do:

Jeremy

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Haa “Spline weights”. Thx for sharing the link.
They give me that the first day in my office . I never understood until know what there for or how to use them! I was holding my PC.

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I love Rhino and I have very high hopes for @DavidRutten Grasshopper 2.0, I am not gonna go into asynchronous methods and multithreading as I know that is something they are working on. Cycles seems to be more mature and in a few iterations would be an amazing path tracer that’s integrated into Rhino. But I do agree rendering (the normal viewports like Shaded and the likes) is outdated I have been digging into Vulkan and there is so much that can be done with more control over the hardware (including advanced new features that come with each new architecture). Anyway much love for McNeel.

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It was but a couple of years ago that I finally did away with my old spline weights and I’ve been using Rhino since it was a free beta download! I kept the splines, french curves, and ship’s curves as they are sometimes useful when working on a half model or other project that calls for unusual curvature. In some ways, I miss those days as my draftings skill got pretty good. The lines plan I included in another forum post was ink on mylar; the pinnacle of drafting output! cheers, R

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you got me there, i clicked on the play and got disappointed having to grow up to look for the video myself.

as a long term user of Rhino and knowing the word loft in digital matters but not being affiliated with boats and planes, i had to look up what lofting a boat actually means. i felt embarrassed.

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What do you do with old spline ducks? Take them to a scrap metal yard?

What do you do with old spline ducks? Take them to a scrap metal yard?

Or give them to the newbies in the office as a nice paperweight? Novelty doorstop? Percussive maintenance tool?

i sign under this. rhino and grasshopper are incredible tools. i have true affection for them.

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I gave them to a student of Naval Arch at USNA which is right around the corner form where we live. I did make him come get them!

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Sounds perfect!

我爱犀牛!我也要不断加油!跟上巨佬们的步伐!

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I really liked this thread, good idea @andheum!

I just published a detailed product analysis of the entire Rhino, Grasshopper and Rhino.Inside product offering from the perspective of: Technologies, User Experience, Developer Experience, Marketing and User Community. I had request a bunch of detail from McNeel but didn’t get anything yet. It’s a long and detailed article, with opinions around strengths/weaknesses, ideas of where the products could develop and what I think are important horizon 1 priorities.

Even if you’re advanced users, you might find some things insightful, for example I do a detailed cost comparison of other AEC industry software on a per user, per year basis. Rhino is obviously the cheapest, even cheaper than a Zoom Business account for 1 host!

Enjoy! I’ve posted on my LinkedIn, Twitter and some Facebook Groups also.

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Thank you so much!!!:crazy_face::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Not impressed; 20+ minutes wasted.

What an utterly useless comment Fred.
Wake up on the other foot tomorrow, will ya?

There were lots of usefull info there for new Rhino nerds and even something for old users. But I am not so sure I would start off by praising cracked software though! :smile: And some guessing could have been swapped for facts, but other than that it was a good read. Interesting info about user base too.

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:face_with_raised_eyebrow: “Love for McNeel”, but steal their product!?

Still, no reason to not give constructive critique to a post.
I think you are in your full right to mean what you mean, but I also think this forum benefit so much more from replies that argue for the opinions.
If you explained why you were not impressed and why you think it was 20 minutes wasted then it’s all good, if not it is just noise IMO.

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Fred, I’m not happy about ‘stealing’ their software for 2 years between 2003-2005 when I did my M.Arch. Being a student outside your home town is expensive in North America, food and housing was a priority. I’ve bought 2 licenses since and through the offices I’ve worked, convinced managers to purchase over 100 licenses! So I’ve redeemed myself.

Illegal copies are still a huge problem. I recently read that Autodesk estimates that about 4m users pay whereas 12m users don’t, from their latest Investor Overview presentation. But this is a digression…

Thanks for reading the article whether you liked or disliked. In the end we both greatly appreciate the McNeel team and the products they provide us with pride.

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IMHO Darrel’s situation is a perfect example of why software companies are actively concerned about piracy, but not TOO concerned. It provides a good opportunity for young, cash-strapped individuals to become familiar with the software in the hope that they will stick with it in their later professional lives and and create enough enthusiasm for the product that they will gladly pay for it.

I believe that most software companies, including McNeel, are deeply concerned about individuals and other firms that run profitable enterprises with pirated software. It’s pretty darn hard to find any sympathy or justification for such criminal behavior.

I think McNeel has made it much more difficult since Darrel’s time to run unlicensed copies of newer versions of Rhino. In addition inflation has made the real price of Rhino in economic terms relatively less expensive than 15-20 years ago and it’s success has made it more accessible through educational institutions than it was then so there is comparatively less incentive to steal it.

One of the things that I’ve admired about Robert McNeel and his associates is the apparently highly successful way they have navigated the complicated course of remaining a viable, successful software developer for so many years. Because of this I’ve never felt that I needed to act as their intellectual property (or any other kind of) cop on the forum, although from time to time when I see evidence of obvious piracy displayed on the forum I will bring the post to their attention in a PM so as to not tip off the crooks that they’ve done something to show their hand.

well stated