Latest Update Broke SpaceMouse?

Just updated rhino this morning and for some reason my space mouse is all messed up.
I installed the latest 3dconnexion driver.
Restarted my computer (4 Times).
I also tried calibrating it (3 Times).
Below is me using it as normal, as you can see it is not even usable.

System Info

Rhino 7 SR31 2023-6-15 (Rhino 7, 7.31.23166.15001, Git hash:master @ 850d276b2d59d7e51843939e4cf674b356bcd354)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-06-15
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 4-25-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 531.79
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port 1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: None
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-25-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3179
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino 6 & 7\SnSPro_Rhino_6+7.rhp “Scan&Solve Pro for Rhino” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.31.23166.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

Is there something that I could do to fix this? Or maybe that I did wrong? Or something else I could try?
:sweat_smile:

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Current settings For space mouse


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With all the rotation settings disabled. That all works


All pan disabled and all rotate enabled. Does not work as expected.


Not sure what part is not working. Video size is to large to post.

A little off topic, but I’ve noticed when I’ve been trying out V8 WIP, then go back to V7 all my 3D Connexion settings are gone, I have to reinstall my saved 3D Connexion settings every time :man_shrugging:t4:, aplogies probably needs its own new topic

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No need to apologize :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’ve had issues in the past too, where windows has done some kind of update and my 3D Connexion mouse and navigator have lost all there presets, again I have to reinstall my saved 3D Connexion settings, hopefully someone from McNeel might be able to assist with your issue :+1:

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Hi Ryan,
have you tried to work in “object mode” instead of “target camera mode”?

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Hi Milezee,
I’ve had the same problems in the past and it happened when I was working with different versions of Rhino ( V5, V6 and V7 wip).
In my opinion the problem is that the spacemouse application/driver changes the options depending on the active application… all the Rhino’s executable was Rhino.exe so the driver makes confusion and mix the options between different versions (making a mess).
The only way I found to have a stable configuration is to use only one Rhino version at a time (only V7 sessions or V6 and so on).

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yep, its a pita when you have to reinstall saved settings :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Thanks for looking at this @lucio_zadra
I have tried that, just tried it a second ago to check again. It isn’t working correctly either…
https://www.canva.com/design/DAFoofDuP6g/Bu9xDzp6TakUzueCWAWPUQ/watch?utm_content=DAFoofDuP6g&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=publishsharelink

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Mh, I see…
Another way I would try is to call the SpaceMouse options directly in Rhino and check that the options are consistent with the driver’s ones (before calling the SpaceMouse command in Rhino close the 3dConnexion window).

@Ryan14 if you check the “Use Selected Item” Rhino will force the target camera to the center of the selected objects; if no object is selected and “Auto” is checked, then the target will be sum of all the centers of the visible objects (the ones that are visible in the active view).
Sometimes you have to stop rotating and moving with the space mouse to let Rhino calculate the new camera target.

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Hmm, they do match.
Screenshot 2023-07-14 130646



Below. I have the settings matching yours… It is still behaving funny. The video is mostly me messing with it trying to figure out some rhyme or reason as the saying goes.
https://www.canva.com/design/DAFoov-0DYI/ZemsAlDbYtnwooh7VPPeMg/watch?utm_content=DAFoov-0DYI&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=publishsharelink

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Do you have other Rhino version installed? V6 V8?
If yes, have you tried to see if they work in the same way as V7?
As last chance I would try to run “Reset All Settings” in the 3d connexion driver or to uninstall and re-install the driver…
Sorry if nothing I suggested worked… I know it’s frustrating when working things broke for no reason…

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I recommend unlocking the horizon, and using a little faster overall speed:

I also recommend using these speeds more closely to being similar to eachother:

Sometimes the 3dconnexion drivers and Rhino residual drivers seem to conflict from time to time.

As shown here:

And not all potential functionality of the 3dconnexion device are really compatible with Rhino yet.

Too many Rhino developers keep putting their 3D mouses on the shelf after they get dizzy.

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I’ve noticed the settings will definitely be different per each program.

Yes, I’ve noticed this too.

Also, frequently this will cause all of my visual tool pallets to get wiped, and the tool pallet file will get over written to the wiped state. So, I have to memorize which ones were last visual. This is something that lesser skilled users will become very frustrated over, and basically stop using Rhino. This problem dates back to antiquity.

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Very good point. I recommend “object mode” as well. But I don’t prefer locking horizon…

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I recommend ‘unchecking’ both of these boxes:
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But ultimately, it’s about what behavior do you expect, and what behavior can you achieve that’s as close as possible to what you expect. All while dealing with the conflicts between Rhino and 3Dconnexion, and lack of control thereof.

It’s too bad so many developers are letting their 3D mouses collect dust on the shelf.

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Thank you @lander and @lucio_zadra for looking into this for me.
I reset the everything back to defaults and unchecked both the boxes that Lander mentioned. I must say that I have never really used object mode, but I will try to learn. After all, I am still young and can learn new stuff. :grinning:
Things seem to be somewhat better after doing what you guys suggested.
Thank you for getting me back on track!
I will say that after using this space mouse for 2 years even with its downsides it has been a blast and I can definitely recommend it.

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