Hello Everyone,
When I print a layout that has detail views in technical, monochrome and pen modes, the resulting pdf has thickened lines and looks different than what’s shown in the layout view and print preview. Any thoughts on what’s causing this? I never had this issue in Rhino 7.
Thanks in advance!
What version of Rhino are you running? PDF export in Rhino 8 is different from Rhino 7, and there have been some bug fixes in the 8.2 service release candidate. To get the service release candidate, see Rhino 8 Service Release Candidate Available - #6 by brian
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the link! I updated to 8.2 and tried the test again. Unfortunately, the results are the same.
Layout view with print preview on:
The resulting pdf
Anyone else have this issue? I’m trying to figure out if this is isolated to just my machine. Thanks!
Hello. I too am having this problem. I have tried various configurations and installed version 8SR3 but it does not solve the problem, I want to switch from Rhino7 to Rhino8 but I can’t make the transition until this problem is solved.
Same problem over here, cant export plans in Rhino 8.
With a Clippingplane involved it gets even more funky.
I’ve logged RH-79212 Raster printing makes lines thicker and thicker
Thank you. I am relieved that this problem seems to be recognized as a bug and may be improved.
I am unfortunately also experiencing several artefacts with pdf-layout-printing.
I am using detail views with a certain locked scale in which technical view is selected in order to be able to show hidden lines.
When exporting with RH 8 the following artefacts appear; I do not get any hidden lines.
view in layout
view in printed pdf
When using RH 7 I get the following artefacts.
view in layout
view in printed pdf
Since I tried several options from changing view display styles, properties of layers/detailview-windows I think my only chance to get a pdf with hidden lines is to change my workflow to Make2D.
It would be very very helpful though to be able to use detailview-windows, select a scale and a display style and be sure to get whats beeing previewed in the model/layout view. Otherwise an intermediate step with make2d always needs to be remodeled, when changing the input model while working on revisions.
Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions,
Georg
Hi Georg -
Please always post a 3dm file that shows the issue. Are you exporting to vector or raster PDF?
-wim
Hello Wim,
Thank you for the quick reply.
Heres a quick reference RH8 file resulting in all full lines (no hidden lines) when exporting as vector pdf.
RH8_TEST_PRINTPDF.3dm (3.2 MB)
kind regards,
Georg
Hi Georg -
Thanks. I’m running a newer in-house version than what you are running (8.4.23358.2001, 2023-12-24), and I’m getting short dashes with your file as it is:
The attached PDF is with the hidden line linetype changed from 2,2 to 5,5 - RH8_TEST_PRINTPDF-5,5.pdf (3.4 KB)
That said, vector PDF is new in Rhino 8 and there is still a lot of work being done in this area.
-wim
Thank you Wim,
In fact the attached file seems to be more representative for what I need to be exported to PDF.
With the raster export I loose whole areas of the drawing resulting in huge white areas on the plan + theres a bunch of funky artefacts looking more like hatches than dashed lines.
With vector output I only get full/solid lines all over in the drawing.
PR_REV_09-TEST.3dm.zip (13.6 MB)
Also I tried to export various formats from jpeg to tiff which all resulted in various artefacts or big white areas on the plan.
The only way I think which could solve this for now is going back to Make2D and clean the drawings manually. It would be great though to be able to find a way bypassing make 2D.
Is there a different PDF export plugin which could be tried?
thanks in advance,
Georg
Hi Georg -
That looks like this in a more recent in-house build:
Could you please run the Rhino SystemInfo command and paste its output here?
It’s always possible, but I’m not aware of such plug-in.
-wim
Thanks again for the quick reaction.
I guess for now I need to wait for any further updates to get closer to what your inhouse build is exporting.
best,
Georg
heres the copied system info
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I’ll send you an 8.4 build in a DM; please reply here to let us know how it worked.
Thank you guys for the 8.4 build.
When exoporting using the same print settings (just changed hidden lines from 2.0 to 0.5 lenght)
the pdf now clearly shows hidden lines - only some small artefacts seem to be left; see interrupted hidden line on the picture.
thanks,
Georg
Hi Georg -
Yes, that seems to be an issues with the Technical display mode.
→ RH-79394 Display: Technical draws incomplete lines
-wim
Hi Georg -
I was wrong saying this was an issue with the display mode. The surface that is showing the dashed lines is a single surface with creases. Above that are “normal” surfaces that are split at the tangent creases. You need to run DivideAlongCreases on that one surface for it to behave as expected here; or turn OFF Show creases in the Technical display mode.
-wim
