When I print to PDF, there are weird dots that appear in my PDF when viewing with disabled lineweights. Seems to be an issue for smaller scales only. See attached image and rhino file.
I tried simplifying the curves, and facetting them, but no luck.
Hi,
I’m experiencing the exact same issue. When printing to PDF at smaller scales, I get strange dots in the output, especially when lineweights are disabled in the PDF viewer. I’ve also tried simplifying and faceting the curves, but it hasn’t resolved the problem.
Would appreciate any insights or fixes.
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Hi June and Vahid -
Could you tell us more about this workflow? Why are you printing to PDF with line weights and then disabling those in a different application?
What you are seeing is expected behavior in its current state.
It used to be so that those dots were bigger than the line weight and were always visible in the PDF output. This was fixed for 8.14 ( RH-84872 Print: Curves Print As Hatch Dots).
As you have noted, this is scale-dependent and, at this point, the only way to avoid those dots is by either changing the short lines in those places with arcs, or by changing the degree of the curves to 2 and pulling the middle control point slightly out of position.
-wim
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Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 9-13-2024 (M-D-Y).
Integrated graphics device w
ith 4 adapter port(s)
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.
To duplicate, print pdf of layout 2 using Rhino PDF or Bluebeam.
View PDF in Bluebeam and disable lineweights in Bluebeam Revu21.
Hi Wim,
I tried changing curves to straight lines and it looks even worse
I am printing architectural drawing sets using the same linework at various scales.
For example, I am printing a zoomed out view of a ceiling section, then zooming into the same linework to make a detail drawings. I am using the same linework to avoid drawing the same thing twice.
The zoomed in details are fine, but the zoomed out drawings have the dots.
When I view the drawings in Bluebeam, I sometimes need to disable lineweights to view drawings in more detail, and our clients may occasionally do this as well. It currently looks like a mistake.
Hi June -
Thanks.
I’ve put this issue on our list as RH-88367 Print: Short Curves Print As Hatch Dots
Yes, that’s the opposite of what I suggested.
The lines are the problem.
-wim
RH-88367 is fixed in Rhino 8 Service Release 23
