Curves disappear when rotating in wireframe mode

[david31 (David)]

This just started.

When I rotate in wireframe mode, all curves disappear and are replaced by a bounding box.

Any suggestions?

Thank you

Rhino 7 SR37 2024-4-16 (Rhino 7, 7.37.24107.15001, Git hash:master @ d2e42f70b9d3aa58f6053e2998a0db2abcd7555b)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-04-16
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [98% battery remaining]

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 4-29-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 - Build 30.0.101.1960
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: Intel
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 - Build 30.0.101.1960
Driver Date: 4-29-2022
Driver Version: 30.0.101.1960
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 1 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.37.24107.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.37.24107.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.37.24107.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\import_STEP.rhp “STEP Import”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Alerter.rhp “Alerter”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\export_STEP.rhp “STEP Export”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.37.24107.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.37.24107.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

[theoutside (Kyle Houchens)]

you are using an intel iris graphics card with 1gb vram. the min required for rhino is 4gb per monitor.

this machine does not meet rhino’s min spec.

your driver is also 2+ years old and may benefit from an update.

grab the intel driver support wizard here.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html

run it and install any updates. It may help, but this machine is going to struggle with rhino for anything other than the very basics.

System Requirements

see this thread for laptop buying recommendations.

If you are buying a new laptop READ THIS

If you are in the market for a new lap top to run rhino. Most importantly, Look for one with a **standalone video card. Specifically an Nvidia RTX(recommended) or higher end AMDcard **. More vram and more rendering cores (Called cuda cores on an nvidia card) are better. Mac users should be looking at a Silicon M1/M2/M3/M4. Rhino requires 4 gb vram for each monitor you connect. If you are connecting 3 monitors, you need 12gb vram minimum. Laptop Machines that are referred to as “hybrid” mu…

[david31 (David)]

Hi Kyle,

I figured this would be you answer, just buy a new computer.

• Intel says my video driver is up to date.
• I have been using rhino 7 on this computer for the past 4 years and this issue only began very recently.
• I can’t afford a new computer right now and rhino runs great, except for this.
• Maybe this issue came from one of microsoft’s updates?
• I thought you guys might have some suggestions.
• Anyway, I will carry on.

[AlW]

@david31

I have been using rhino 7 on this computer for the past 4 years and this issue only began very recently.

Is it possible for you to open an old file which you are certain did not have this issue and check whether it now does have the issue? If it does that will confirm that something about your computer has changed as opposed to something about your current job that stresses the display system more than previous jobs. The behavior you describe has been an integral “feature” of Rhino since version 1 - it’s Rhino’s way of dealing with an overloaded video system.

@david31

Maybe this issue came from one of microsoft’s updates?

This is not an unreasonable possibility. Microsoft updates have a long tradition of messing up working systems. Usually when this happens they replace a working video driver with an official MS “update” which degrades the performance.

Good luck.

[JimCarruthers]

@david31

• Intel says my video driver is up to date.
• I have been using rhino 7 on this computer for the past 4 years and this issue only began very recently.

Does it say it’s up to date? The latest build of Intels’ drivers seems to be a bit beyond yours. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/785597/intel-arc-iris-xe-graphics-windows.html

If you go in Rhino to Tools->Options->View and lower the desired framerate in “Dyamic redraw,” does that help? Turning stuff into boxes is just what Rhino does when it starts chugging.

[Gijs (Gijs de Zwart)]

@david31 IIRC you should be able to get curve drawing to work for that card by going to options and in OpenGL settings setting the openGL slider one tick back.

[david31 (David)]

@JimCarruthers

Does it say it’s up to date? The latest build of Intels’ drivers seems to be a bit beyond yours. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/785597/intel-arc-iris-xe-graphics-windows.html

Interesting, this link forced the update.

After update:
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 12-26-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 - Build 32.0.101.6449
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

But, this did not fix the issue

[david31 (David)]

@AlW

Is it possible for you to open an old file which you are certain did not have this issue and check whether it now does have the issue? If it does that will confirm that something about your computer has changed as opposed to something about your current job that stresses the display system more than previous jobs. The behavior you describe has been an integral “feature” of Rhino since version 1 - it’s Rhino’s way of dealing with an overloaded video system.

• This happens only in wireframe mode.
• Just moving the view of any simple, or complex shape.
• See this video, where I am switching between view modes.

[david31 (David)]

@Gijs

@david31 IIRC you should be able to get curve drawing to work for that card by going to options and in OpenGL settings setting the openGL slider one tick back.

This did not correct the issue.

[david31 (David)]

@JimCarruthers

If you go in Rhino to Tools->Options->View and lower the desired framerate in “Dyamic redraw,” does that help? Turning stuff into boxes is just what Rhino does when it starts chugging.

This did not correct the issue.

[stevebaer]

All of your display modes look like they have been customized in some way. Does this happen in default Wireframe display?

[david31 (David)]

Everyone, thank you for your help, but the issue persists.

• I have been using this computer with Rhino every day for the past 4 years.
• No crashes, perfect.
• I just started using OneView around when I noticed this issue.
• Do you think OneView could be causing this?
• How do I disable OneView to check if this is the problem?

[stevebaer]

https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/6/help/en-us/index.htm#commands/oneview.htm?Highlight=oneview

Run OneView and set Enabled to Off

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Have you tried your tests with a non-customized Wireframe display mode?

[david31 (David)]

@stevebaer

Have you tried your tests with a non-customized Wireframe display mode?

Steve, you solved it!!

• Options->View->Wireframe->Restore Defaults

Thank you