Personally I’m still on Windows 10 (with 7+ Taskbar Tweaker) and Rhino 7…
But I am also working on a remote machine, Windows 11 and Rhino 8.
Windows 10 + Rhino 7/8 = Simple and manageable icons in the taskbar, no duplicates
(and with 7+TT I can even change the icons order of the multiple instances…)
Windows 11 + Rhino 8:
1 Grasshopper now generate an additional icon in the taskbar, a “duplicate”
2 if you minimize Rhino, the grasshopper duplicate will vanish, and reappear when reopened
3 the icons of multiple instances of Rhino and Grasshopper are a “mono-block” and you can’t arrange them, but, even if you could, problem 2 above would re-mess the order
4 On Windows 11 7+TT tool is not working , so… suffering!
5 Grasshopper “dedicated” icons on the taskbar have Rhino icon
6 Grasshopper elements on the taskbar have the name start always with “Grasshopper” and that easily make the user unable to read the actual .gh filename
Hi Riccardo,
I have Start11 installed on my two Win11 machines - I don’t know if it fixes all your issues, but it does fix some taskbar stuff. Plus I use it to heavily customize my start screen. I will check more later when I get back home.
Edit - here is what my W11 taskbar looks like under Start11 with 3 Rhino V8’s open plus GH in two of them and ScriptEditor in one.
All the Rhino’s are separate icons (that is a setting in Start11). GH definitions open do not get a separate icon in the taskbar, but the script editor does. I mainly like Start11 for the custom tiles start screen, which I have been using some form of since Windows 8. Set to come up when I hit the Windows key, instant one-click navigation to my most used programs, folders, websites, etc.
Setting last option to “Always” doesn’t seems to help. The tooltip popping-up is the same…
Even in the tooltip you can’t read the .gh filenames due the “Grasshopper” start part…
Actually, yes, the naming is different.
Rhinoceros windows is “filename - Rhino”
Grasshopper window is “Grasshopper - filename” , the opposite!
It make more sense the Rhino one… the name of the file is written first, so hopefully you can read it.
Have you considered using Windows 11 in a more 11ish way? If you let instances of Rhino share an icon, then hovering the mouse pointer over it reveals little images of each instance. Hovering the mouse over each image instantly displays the app full screen.
.. yes! But that means slowing down a lot.
I’m surprised someone even trying to make me see this as “good”:
But, see my first post.
I have multiple (6 at minimum, but often more) instances of Rhino with Grasshopper open.
All Rhino instances have no file open, no geometry visible
Rhino instances cannot be sorted (this is possible with 3rd party tools…)
Minimizing a Rhino instance will result in the Grasshopper windows disappear from the task bar too! So you can no longer see it in any place, hovering included.
Reopening a minimized Rhino Instance will make the Grasshopper window reappear as the last (right) position in the task bar
all of my .gh scripts are similar so even the little image doesn’t help. And creating some scribble for that is not good too, because often i’m in a different place of the huge canvas.
grasshopper window name always start with "Grasshopper - " making it impossible to read the name of the actual file.
Microsoft made the usual reoccuring trash with the UI on Windows 11. No need of denying this or hiding this.
On W10 it was better and with some tool you could make it really productive.
I’m not here to move the blame from Microsoft to McNeel , but … is McNeel trying to minimize the problems of the new Windows UI?
Making the grasshopper windows part of the Rhino instance instead of making a new element of the taskbar, imo, would be useful, like in windows 10. Currently it feels like a “whack a mole”.
If that is not possible, renaming the grasshopper window with the same, coherent, naming as Rhino: filename - program, instead of program - filename.
… and… give it the grasshopper icon, not the rhino one.
