Why Does Rhino Not Work with My NAS?

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Rhino does not want to save or export to my NAS:

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Win11, Qnap NAS

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I assume you’ve checked that the account being used by Rhino to access the NAS has all the rights needed to manage files in that location. Try mapping a drive to the NAS and see if Rhino works any better accessing it that way.

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There is just one account on my pc and no other program has problems with acces to that NAS. Just Rhino 8 does not want it.

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Very long addresses can also cause issues for some programs, so can “strange” characters like æøå in Norwegian. So try saving a simple file with an English name (test.3dm) to a top level directory like “test” just to double-check that it doesn’t save to the NAS at all.

If that works try saving to the nas with a filename that doesn’t use the ü.

Also try mapping the NAS to a drive letter on your computer. Use X, Y or Z for example.

(I just saved a file from my computer to my NAS a Rhino 8 file with the filename “ü.3dm” and that worked fine.

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Weird enough saving worked this morning in the same directory and as test or ĂĽ as well.
It happens when I want to save under a name temporary file name it seems without giving it a unic name.

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Hi Walter,

this should be the first thing to do when you work on files that are on a NAS or a server.

I work on Synology and have no issue opening an saving files on the shared space.

The fact that other programs can open and save files without problems could be due they don’t save temp files on the NAS but locally.

If the path is mapped as a local disk, windows works better.

In file explorer under Your PC click on the 3 point icon on the top and select “connect lan unit” (sorry for the images in italian) and follow the procedure (if the NAS is always reachabale select that the unit has to be connected everytime windows start).

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Another thing you can try is to disable the file locking in Rhino Options → Files

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Hi Walter -

You might want to try to change the following advanced setting to see if that makes a difference.

Rhino.Options.FileSettings.WriteLocalTempFileWhenSaving

-wim

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Will try both, mapping and Rhino setting.
Now trying to export stp item to NAs did not work either. There is no temporary file, I guess prelaminary by Rhino.

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When saving a normal Rhino file on NAs this does not appear nor does it, when opening a file on NAS.

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I have seen issues with exporting MPX too where Rhino truncates filenames that are too long (too many characters in pathname and filename together) and this might be an issue with STEP files too since the code can be old…

Did you try exporting with short filename to NAS root directory?

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Yes, tried one letter filename as well.
Anyway I look at it, its Rhino, not my system, that does these silly things. Never had such a thing before and I have many items in my network that have working acces to the NAS, including cnc roputers, printers, media players etc.

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Well yes it most likely is the system, obviously. How is it Rhino’s fault that Windows isn’t giving it sufficient permissions to save these files? Is everyone who uses a network drive experiencing this? No. I certainly have never had this particular problem with my network drive situation, but I have others that can be chalked up to nothing more than Stupid Windows Stuff.

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Not to argue, but all you mentioned here does not save to folders, they are either attached or read from it. I suspect Rhino has no issues reading files from the NAS either, is that correct?

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Rhino is perfectly able to save your files to a NAS drive.

A file with your path and file name saved successfully to my NAS:

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An STP file with your path and file name saved successfully to my NAS:

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I think you should check the permissions on your NAS file system. Unfortunately I can’t help you with that on a QNAP - my NAS is a Synology.

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Rhino does read files from NAS and t saves 3dm files as well. It does not write data to NAS when exporting stp. It does create an empty file though with the name given. The error apers once I confirm file settings in Rhino.

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then cofirm and then this:
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file created:
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At this point I would try exporting in other formats to check if they works (iges, stl, dwg, dxf…).

If the problem is only with step I would check if the plugin is corrupted…

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STL works. Step works only on local HD.

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What also does not work is automatic backup/save files in between work.

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And subsequent saving does lead to the same result.
Cannot save changed files when filename exists
Mapping drive does not help

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Good check, this narrows things down.
It sounds like STEP export needs an update on how it saves temp files, maybe the process isn’t centralized for all filetypes.

@wim can you tag the right person for this?

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temp files are the problem I guess with 3dm as well, as when I leave a file open to work on it, I cannot save it in the same location on NAS. Can save any file just once, then I have to rename it.
Both valid only on mapped or not mapped NAS.
I tried a different NAS and it looks that there the problem does not exist. Will have to check setting on the primary NAS…so maybe it not Rhino and not Win11, might be NAS settings…
checking.

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Rhino used to struggle with saving to dropbox too, and if I remember correctly they changed some settings to delay the renaming of the saved files or something. (Delete old, rename temp)