Why CPU only with quadro 5000?

Wanted to try new render engine in win 7 (Beta until later in the week), very slow. Checked in properties and only CPU is found (which I assume is why this is not working very fast). Windows claims I have the most recent driver (though it seems way old).
SystemInfo is:
Rhino 7 SR0 2020-11-4 (Rhino 7 BETA, 7.0.20309.06003, Git hash:master @ 368ab021c8426434a95c36999f545f918e04df2c)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-11-04
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2020-12-19

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)

Non-hybrid graphics.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro 5000 (NVidia) Memory: 3GB, Driver date: 8-1-2016 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 369.09

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.5
Shading Language: 4.50 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 8-1-2016
Driver Version: 21.21.13.6909
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 2560 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\mark\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot6RhinoPlugin (0b79bf6d-9d2c-4c19-84ff-d015c84b0a6b)\1.1.0.0\KeyShot6RhinoPlugin\Rhino 5.0\x64\KeyShot6RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot6RhinoPlugin” 1.1.0.0
C:\Users\mark\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot8RhinoPlugin (6c7d7caf-b4ba-406d-bfaa-8d719d8212c3)\1.5.0.0\KeyShot8RhinoPlugin\Rhino 5.0\KeyShot8RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot8RhinoPlugin” 1.5.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Alerter.rhp “Alerter”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.0.20309.6003
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

The Quadro 5000 appears to have only 352 Cuda cores, which is too little to be more powerful than your cpu. It was also released in 2011, so I don’t think it supports the newer shader stuff that Cycles requires.
I am sure @nathanletwory can give you some more specifics if you need that.

The Quadro 5000 is a card based on Fermi architecture. That is not supported by Cycles. You need at least a Kepler card, but that isn’t going to give you much better performance either. You need a recent GPU to be able to really appreciate the benefit of GPU accelleration. Older GPUs are likely outperformed by CPUs

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Could you offer some suggestions - is it possible to get a useful card under $1k?

I’ll let the users chip in here with suggestions for what they think are good cards to run Raytraced on. In my desktop I have an RTX 2070 (and a Radeon Pro WX 9100 and Intel HD Graphics 630). The RTX 2070 performs well enough.

I don’t know price points though.

Mark, are you kidding? these days you can get a RTX 3070 for under $1000
You might even find a 3080 for that price.
(BUT your computer must be able so serve it the power it needs though)
No need to go Quadro unless you have other software that require that.

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I believe that right now this is just a theory. RTX3000 series cards are pretty much sold out for the time being. Or they were a week ago when I looked on the web at all the usual places.

you can get a 3070 pretty easy. they are usually not in stock, but you can place an order and have to wait a bit before it ships. you just have to get in line. the situation is worse for 3080 and 3090.

depending on the power supply you have in your system, you might want to consider a 3060ti over a 3070. most 3070 models require two 8pin pcie power connectors. there are some 3060ti models that require only one 8pin power connector. you can also find more 3060ti models that only take up two slots, whereas most 3070 models occupy three slots. depending on your case this might also be important to consider.

here are two examples that are dual slot and only need one 8pin:
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Eagle
Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Twin Edge

any RTX20 series card is a bad idea. they are eol and even though the RTX30 series cards are massively overpriced at the moment, they still deliver a better value when rendering with engines that support RTX/optix.

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That’s good to know.

On the other hand, there’s always the RTX A6000: All 10752 cores on the GA102 chip enabled, 48GB of GDDR6 ECC memory, 384 bus width and PCIe4. All for the low, low price of only US$5500. Order now for early 2021 delivery!

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PNY sells that card for a cool $5500!

Yes. I’m sure that now that Bob has all that cash rolling in from the V7 upgrades Jeff and Nathan will be getting these for development right after New Years.