VA 3 Beta - Space Styles - User review & feature wish

Hello,
Currently testing VA3 Beta for real-life application :wink: great work so far. Many things work great, some not so well. Here are my thoughts, questions and wishes regarding Space Styles:

• 1. While creating a Space Style, a preview for %<name>% is not shown. Even though the “name” parameter is filled. It is a bit confusing. But then it works just fine in a model.

• 2. Format options are scarce. As an architect, I really need to have options to custom tailor the visual feeling of my designs. It would be great to have “alignment” options for Space labels (Left, Center, Right). Also, I would like to use different fonts in a single label and also some lines with bold, some without:

Alternatively, as a temporary workaround, I would like to have the option to reference the data from Space Label to Rhino block, via text fields. VA Space will collect data and Text fields will do the text formatting. Would it be possible?

• 3. I expect two basic area data from Space feature. Usable area (currently existing as “area”) and Habitable area. The logic behind is, that every room counts as usable area, but not automatically as habitable area. I need both numbers for the final “rooms table” (I will open different thread for VA3 tables soon :). Some kind of a checker or toggle option inside Space label properties would be ideal. Now I can only manually create custom parameter for “habitable” area and manually type in the number (same number as “area” if area is habitable, and “zero” if not. It is very prone to errors, not dynamic and counters the overall logic of using Space labels… But maybe the next point could serve as an interesting workaround:

• 4. I would like to use custom parameters to dynamically work with data inside Spaces. For instance - If I could reference %<area>% in my “Habitable area” custom parameter, then it should dynamically update, when Space “area” updates. At the end, I would just manually change this field to zero, when creating the final “Rooms table” (and room shouldn´t be “habitable”). This is currently not working. Also, I can imagine it could work also with some mathematical logic, so it could be possible to add/substract or multiply (etc.) referenced numbers, and in such a way further expand the promising functionality of Space labels (& custom parameter also):
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These 4 points summarize my feelings and needs regarding Space & Space Styles functionality in day to day architectural practice. Please let me know your thoughts and possible workarounds to my findings.

Keep up the good work.

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Agreed, being able to customize space labels and just generally all annotative objects is very important. Extending this to show custom parameters in labels would be amazing.

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Hi @MichalKrizo thanks for your valuable feedback!

We can consider showing just the property name in those cases where you show properties of text type.

Agree. Right now it is not possible to change the font, or size of the different texts in the space labels. I add your vote for this feature in future versions.

First of all, we could do something to calculate the “habitable” area for spaces. This will be possible when spaces detect the interior volume of a room and they are not just extrusions based on a perimeter and a height. But in the meantime, you can calculate the “habitable area” and add it to the space as a custom parameter. (I continue in the next point…)

You can reference custom parameters in space labels with this syntax in the space label (in the space styles dialog):

%<parameters[“parameter name”]>%

But it would be useful to add formulas for these properties so what you see is the result of the interaction of a property with other properties or parameters. I add your vote for this feature as well.

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All good points, and for format options, some kind of possibility to round off a number is crucial. Two decimals for an area calculation is just too detailed.

Now, if I could make a wish, this could be implemented with some kind of Grasshopper expression, opening up the possibilities to also make calculations:

Format("{0:0.#}", %<area>%)

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Hi @studioselva yes, I hope we can implement this feature as well and let you control the decimal precision in someway.

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