Urbano vs shp vs osm

Hi all!

I´ve really tried and searched the forum and web, but i do not find the real problem.

Task:
i do have different information from different locations means - shp files (including all necessary dbf, prj, etc…) osm files, vector, curves…

at the end the problem is:

  • all my imported shape files have problem with distorsions
  • all my imported json files have problem with distorsions
  • only osm is working without any distorsion

shp files are in WGS84, transferred outside of rhino/urbano, and they are ok. in every other software. as soon as i import it into Rhino this happens (picture1)

the part on the left is transfomed to the right. this also happens to json files. the original shp file is in three coordinate systems MGI , which normally is no problem.

Picture2

does sombody know this?

it does not matter if i change proj / utm / vector etc - distorsion/problem stays. the only thing : if i do delete the linked .pfj file, the data is tiny scaled in Rhino, and looks ok (but not “remapped”)

one thing could help - if i only use osm files, it could work out BUT i need a complete country, which is only possible in osm.pbf - and i cannot import it.

thx for any help

evve

Hi -

There’s a support email address on the Food4Rhino page that you could try.

Apart from that, I see that you ran into this issue earlier this year and that you solved it with an online tool. Perhaps Heron is an option now?
-wim

hi Wim!

thx. for urgent reply!

i was in superhurry earlier this year, and the transformation worked out for this area. i thought, ok its a problem of the transformation tool, perhaps i can solve it later on.

now i have to solve the rest of the country, where the problems starts, because the tool does it ok.

i did try to get in contact with the Urbano Team but my question was to translate the data to WGS84 with urbano - at this time (earlier this week) i thought the problem was the external translation tool

With heron i could try to translate it, but the thing is: it is done ok by the external tranlator tool - so there is no problem.

I thought : could it be a scale/mm/m problem?..

thx
evve

Hi -
I’m afraid I can’t help you with Urbano issues, but @Brian_Washburn can probably help you with Heron.
-wim

what i tried is, and perhaps here is a thing too:

when i´m using the grasshopper shp import its causing this:

  1. Error while parsing BOD_5300_WASSER_F: Der ‘Microsoft.ACE.OLEDB.12.0’-Provider ist nicht auf dem lokalen Computer registriert.

whatever that means…

and for heron:

if i try to import via heron: something happens. but there are not points, though the red curve (shp file extends) is inside of the black curve (crop boundary).

if i delete the black curve (crop boundary) nothing comes in (no fields etc).

evve

Hi @ewaldneuhofer
With the ImportVector and ImportOSM components of Heron you can bring in shapefile and OSM vector data, automatically transformed to WGS84 and scaled to your Rhino file’s units based on the EarthAnchorPoint (which can be set with Heron’s SetEAP). You should not need to transform the incoming data from the original coordinate systems, Heron will take care of it. Heron defaults to transforming data to WGS84, but with the HeronSRS, you can set it to use any valid coordinate system.

If you post some sample SHP and OSM files (zipped), I can put together a definition to show you how it works.

-Brian

i dont see any of these components.

Are you downloading Heron through the package manager?

-Brian

this could be… no it is a problem too…

i think i´ve overwritten components or libraries through the paket manager.
i have to clean this up

there is a component id conflict

cleaned everything up. isntalled it via pManager

  1. Solution exception:Der Typeninitialisierer für “OSGeo.OSR.OsrPINVOKE” hat eine Ausnahme verursacht.

happens when importiong osm or shp(via ImportVector)

Try loading Heron from disk as shown in this post:

-Brian

ok. so this fixed the osm component.

the shp component crashed. perhaps its to big. i´ll try a smaller file.

thx for helping out.

evve

Hi Evve @ewaldneuhofer,

Could you share the shp files? I can try to fix Urbano if I can replicate this problem on my end.

Thanks,
Yang

yes of course. at the moment i´m trying to fix it with heron.

the heron “Vector Lite” works, but is a bit “off” (think projection is wrong).

ok still troubles:

import through urbano:
osm, shp and json file fitting together but shp/json file do have problems with distorion (as mentioned above) outside of the shown area.
blue:shp file
points: from osm, natural feature, more ore less perfect
black: json

import fits

import through heron:
files do not have the distorsion as shown above(beginning of post), but do not fit together
osm works, but is kind of squeezed
shp through import lite works, but is somewhere and also kind of squeezed

orange: same shp file as blue
green: natural feature through osm import, is somewhere and kind of wrong projection/proportion

will give it another try tomorrow.

thx

also tried the Heron Vector Input (for shp files). works, but ist squeezed - means prjection might be wrong. everything is set in WGS84, so it should workout.

Make sure to set the EarthAnchorPoint close to your area of interest, otherwise you’ll get some distortion if Rhino’s origin is 0 Lat / 0 Lon.

hi brian!

i´d have a few questions , small ones…

can i drop them here?

ewald

Hi @ewaldneuhofer ,
Happy to answer either here or in DM.
-Brian