Updated to Big Sur 11.6, now very laggy

Rhino Rhino for Mac
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Just updated to Mac OS Big Sur 11.6 and experiencing tons of lag where every couple commands, the program freezes and the beach ball spins for a little less than 10 secs even with a few low poly objects on screen. It’s become unworkable.

I restarted computer after update. Even started a new file with a simple box. Any clues as to what’s going on and how to fix? I have a deadline and in a bind if it freezes after a couple of commands.
See video of issue.

Thanks in advance.

2019 Macbook Pro
2.4GHz 8‑core Intel Core i9
AMD Radeon 5600m 8 GB
64 GB RAM
2 TB SSD
Big Sur 11.6
Rhino Version 7 (7.10.21256.17002, 2021-09-13)

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That looks very laggy indeed. I’m not yet on macOS Big Sur 11.6, but I am in the process of updating today, so I’ll check once I am.

In the meantime, I would attempt to backup your preferences and then reset them, so see if this is somehow implicated. It’s a long-shot (kind of a wild guess) but I’d be curious to see if that solves the issue or not:

https://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/mac/resetprefs

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I updated to Big Sur 11.6 this morning and I’m not seeing any noticeable change in lag times.

Tried with a simple box as shown in your video - no lag at all.

Arrayed the box 10 X 10 X 10 (1,000 boxes) - still no lag.

Arrayed again 10 X 10 X 1 (100,000 boxes now) - a bit slow when rotating and panning around in the viewport but still nowhere near the lag shown in the video above.

My specs (your’s look better):
2014 iMac - Quad-Core Intel Core i7 - 32 GB RAM
AMD Radeon R9 M295X - 4GB
Big Sur 11.6
Rhino 7 SR11 2021-9-14 (7, 7.11.21257.07002)

-Kevin

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Thanks for the suggestion. Tried resetting the preferences but the issue hasn’t gone away. If you have other suggestions, I’ll try anything. Thanks

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Hi again @canaryslip -

I’ve now updated to macOS Big Sur 11.6 and I’m not seeing the behavior in your video.

Can you please run the _SystemInfo command in Rhino, and then copy and paste the information here?

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@canaryslip My coworker @John_Brock kindly pointed me toward:

which does appear to be very similar symptoms (thanks JB!). It might be worth switching to the Service Release Candidate and seeing if you experience the lag there.

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Hi Dan,

So I tried the SR11 and didn’t fix the issue but SR9 did!
Thanks so much for the heads up play, really appreciate it. Hope the SR12 fixes this.
Have a great day!

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Odd and interesting in equal measure. I would presume if you were experiencing the bug in the other topic:

RH-65628 Texture baking froze Rhino

then it would have been fixed in SR11. Very interesting to find out that it is not. We wouldn’t want you stuck at SR9 after all.

When it crops up again, we’ll want to dig deeper…but I’m glad you can get work done now.

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Sorry to add to this, but it seems I no longer have Intel Denoiser and Pro Render installed. When I went to launch PackageManager, I get this error message.

Failed to fetch packages from source(s): “https://yak.rhino3d.com”
Cannot access a disposed object.
Object name: ‘System.Net.Sockets.Socket’.
Are you sure there’s a package server/folder here?

Here’s my system info.

Rhino 7 SR9 2021-8-10 (Rhino 7, 7.9.21222.15002, Git hash:master @ 190335c3fb65efe86c302714a8959a7dadfe667b)
License type: Commercial, build 2021-08-10
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 11.6 (Build 20G165) (Physical RAM: 64Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,4
Language: en-US (MacOS default)

AMD Radeon Pro 5600M OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-4.6.20)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8176 MB
Graphics: AMD Radeon Pro 5600M
Displays: Color LCD (264dpi 2x)

Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
AMD Radeon Pro 5600M (8 GB)
Color LCD (1792 x 1120 @ 59.00Hz)

USB devices
Apple: composite_device
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller

Bluetooth devices
Broadcom: Magic Mouse 2

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.9.21222.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_OBJ.rhp “Import_OBJ” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_XAML.rhp “export_xaml” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/QuadRemesh.rhp “QuadRemesh” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_OBJ.rhp “export_OBJ” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_SVG.rhp “Export SVG” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_DAE.rhp “Export_DAE” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_IGES.rhp “IGES Export Plug-in” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_SVG.rhp “Import_SVG” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_AMF.rhp “Export_AMF” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/import_DST.rhp “Import_DST” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PLY.rhp “PLY - Polygon File Format Export” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_AMF.rhp “Import_AMF” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.9.21222.15002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.9.21222.15002

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It appears to be working just fine from where I sit. I am able to install both those packages. It sounds like you are seeing the error just after you run the _PackageManager command. Can you reliably repeat it after restarting your Mac?