Trim with the Line option is not working on a lot of surfaces in Version 7 SR16. See example surface that I can’t trim attached. In quick testing, it seems like the file has to have at least 1 object at or below z0 in order for Trim with Line to work.
trim w line not working.3dm (57.4 KB)
Hi Peter - that one works here so far in our latest - what view are you using to trim?
-Pascal
Doesn’t matter - any view will do.
In case it helps:
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Just to be clear: I’m talking about when you select the Line option from the command line. Trim works as expected if I’m using a line that I’ve already drawn.
It’s working fine for me too:
Command: _Trim
Select cutting objects ( ExtendCuttingLines=No ApparentIntersections=Yes Line ): Line
Start of cutting line
End of cutting line
Select object to trim, select pressing Shift to extend ( ExtendCuttingLines=No ApparentIntersections=Yes )
Splitting… Press Esc to cancel
Creating meshes… Press Esc to cancel
Select object to trim, select pressing Shift to extend. Press Enter when done ( ExtendCuttingLines=No ApparentIntersections=Yes Undo )
Command: _CommandHistory
Hm - since the Line option is a screen based thing, I wonder if there is some depth testing glitch - Peter, does the exact file you posted fail for you, or is it in the context of a bunch of other geometry? I’ll try reverting to 7.16 to test, maybe something got fixed, too.
-Pascal
That exact file fails.
I updated my video drivers a few minutes ago and also restarted my pc - no change.
I tried the same file in V8 WIP and it trimmed as expected.
(8.0.22067.16305, 2022-03-08)
It all worked here in 7.16… weird.
Thinking…
-Pascal
Maybe not default settings in the Shaded working display mode?
I tried every display mode that I have without luck. Some are modified and some aren’t.
I wasn’t quite correct about there needing to be something at or below z0.
If I draw a line at any height, trim using that line works, but trim using the Line command line option only works if the line or a point is below 35.5 for some random-seeming reason.
Sorry, I’m going to need better, more specific instructions to follow.
I opened your file and in the large Top view, typed the Trim command, clicked the “line” command line option, clicked two points to slash across your surface, then the top part to trim away.
It worked as expected.
What specifically are you doing differently to get it to fail?
There’s one difference from your steps & mine:
Can you try exactly your steps, but with ExtendCuttingLines=Yes ApparentIntersections=Yes?
@John_Brock or @pascal, are you still unable to repeat this?
Hey Peter, I just ran this every way I can imagine and it works here too.
I had one instance where it did not work but a view change and back (top to front and back) got it working again, it then worked in every other instance I tried. Only view it does not work is perspective, unless you change the cplane to be view based, then it works again.
I’m wondering if clearallmeshes and remaking the render mesh would help?
any chance you could post a screen recording of what you are seeing?
Hi @theoutside,
Assuming I’m not misunderstanding what @phcreates is saying, then I can reproduce the issue:
Creating a line before running Trim and using that to trim in approximately the same place works fine.
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HTH
Jeremy
ok, I see that… now open the file change from top to front then back to top and try it… does it still fail?
I had it fail once and only once in the 20 or 30 times I ran it…
if so please run clearallmeshes and then switch to shaded mode to regent the render mesh, then try again… does it still fail?
Yeah, Jeremy is showing exactly what I see. It doesn’t help to clear all meshes or switch views. I’ll make a video when I get a chance…
Yes
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