Technical vector print is bogus

I am just stating that with current technology employed (faster yet less precise make2d) technical vector print is not achievable and does not work and probably will never work.

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There are definitely countless examples from other users. It fails for the simplest case.

I am sad you went for “cheap” solution to very important problem (Vector technical output).

Hi there,

similar issues here.
The vector output is extremely buggy…

How do you output your vectorized drawings usually?

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i avoided using technical mode and gave mcneel time from release date to make it workable. it is not and it wont be. its like tunning shitty car to go racing. its impossible. make2d should be thrown away and proper solution must be adopted (acquired).

We aren’t going to be able to fix anything based on the image provided. If you have a sample where printing fails, then we can examine it to see if something can be done to fix it.

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My post is not about fixing something. It is about if all the efforts are not futile when the system behind is not robust enough. How long is make2d around? Its years and years and you have been given myriads of examples where it fails and it is still not reliable enough. If it was only about final finetuning and then its going to be alright. OK then, i am willing to post examples. Observing how things have been going i conclude it is not going to lead to reliable output anytime soon or ever.

Are you really confident that with this process (having the same system and ad hoc fixing some cases introduced by users) this could ever lead to proper cad tool which can be used by professionals?

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funny thing. i put misbehaving geometry inside block and now it prints better.

Hi Ivan -

Vector printing from technical display modes doesn’t use any of the code that Make2D uses.
-wim

i read somewhere on the forum that it is some optimized make2d code (for speed). do you think with enough improvements we can get to fully functional tool by v9? otherwise there is no point for users to contribute.

That’s wrong. It’s new code and needs user examples of things that are not as they should be.
-wim

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Not that anyone asked for my opinion but I do feel like you all are taking the wrong approach in saying “it’s never going to work”.

You took the time to post about it here, take the extra 2 minutes to upload a rhino file of the the specific object(s) repeating the poor printing behavior, share your system info via System Info command and then hopefully the developers, with enough user examples, can nail down exactly what causes some of the issues you are seeing… (sometimes only one user sample is needed)

It’s obviously not failing as code, you can see in your snip 99% of it is working, just your one column or whatever that is went wild.

User examples, contributions, and patience will only help the developers help us, the users, by making better code that handles more edge cases. Sometimes that takes awhile, sometimes it’s fast.

I too have felt the frustrations of using Technical Vector print while in production work and having it not working as I expected while on deadlines and under pressure of specific deliverables.

But… like all things new, it takes time to iron out the kinks sometimes.

Far sightedly, real-time vector display mode and vector printing via Technical/Pen/Fake2d etc. has been a long standing wish in this community (from what I have seen), now that it’s finally here let’s help make it better because, as you point out, it’s a critical feature that is here to stay. We all need vector output for one reason or another. Having that output be real-time and dynamic and not needing to rely on the Make2D of old is really a great step forward.

Finding an edge case and “giving up” on a feature ever becoming anything just doesn’t help anybody win…

Please contribute a file and some info. No one can efficiently debug something by looking at a screenshot. By only talking at, and not sharing anything like a file, you are essentially guaranteeing it won’t be fixed, doing a disservice to yourself and others that would also like to see these changes/fixes made.

That’s all :man_shrugging:t4: happy Rhino’ing! :rhinoceros:

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providing specimen

Page 1.pdf (13.6 KB)
technical print artifacts.3dm (1.2 MB)

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i expressed my doubt if there is enough will and resources to make it truly work on acceptable level in forseeable future. i treat mc neel like politicians, trust but verify :smiley:

if it was the only one i would be more thrilled to provide examples, for me other piling up issues made me reluctant for this particular one. i spend too much time reporting silly bugs and obviously not workign things. i really feel i could be compensated at this point.