“Shadows ignore user defined clipping planes” doesn’t work in the current Rhino 8 WIP. Can anyone confirm if there is a bug?
It still doesn’t work in the Rhino 8.1.
Likely it is a bug
Yes, and it’s a regression. I just checked the new release candidate, it’s still here. I think regressions should have a priority in being fixed.
It will be solved. Moving targets here being tackled by the team.
@stevebaer can you look into this one?
Hi -
That’s a bug, yes. I’ve put this on the list as RH-78193 Display: Shadows to ignore clipping planes
-wim
Please, can you give this regression some priority on Windows? It still doesn’t work in 8.6.24074. Very soon I will need this functionality and this is broken since at least October.
It was reported before Rhino 8 went out of beta… (October 18 / October 31)
Hi Barden -
RH-78193 was fixed on November 9th.
If you are running into something with 8.6, I’ll need detail to try to reproduce that here.
-wim
Hi,
I can reproduce this also and actually, I also need this working.
shadow clipping plane.3dm (227.6 KB)
System Info
Rhino 8 SR6 2024-3-14 (Rhino 8, 8.6.24074.01001, Git hash:master @ def4e7ae5a5339578727a42cbd95e31d75b3faf0)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-03-14
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.11
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [95% battery remaining]
Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 2-15-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.61
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 2-15-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.61
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-15-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 2-15-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5161
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 11520 MB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.3.2.0
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\24.2.0.0\bella_rhino.rhp “Bella” 24.2.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\Desktop\Rhino_7_Win_2023.0417\HDRLightStudioTexture.rhp “HDRLightStudioTexture”
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Crayon (39629248-4fa6-47b8-83c7-745a7efea259)\1.2.0.0\Crayon\Crayon.rhp “Crayon” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\BlockEditNew\BlockEditNew.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.6.24074.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.6.24074.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.6.24074.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.6.24074.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.6.24074.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.6.24074.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Rendered view
Rendered with disabled clipping plane
Rendered settings
Raytraced (expected results)
Thanks, that’s exactly it. I have the same results with your file.
Can some another user with Rhino 8.5 or 8.6.24074 check if “Shadows ignore user defined clipping planes” works, please? I would really appreciate knowing if it’s really broken again.
If it’s not working, please reopen the YouTrack issue.
I can confirm that it doesn’t work here either
Hi, Can you please check this file or just put 1 box and 1 clipping plane in the Rhino?
All you need to do is to set “Shadows ignore user defined clipping planes” ON in the Rendered mode and set some light to check whether shadow is made by clipped geometry or full object.
It’s important and if it doesn’t work for you as for the other users, please reopen the YouTrack item.
@jeff
This does look broken for the Rendered display mode…I’ll take a look.
I do want to point out here though, that this is not going to work for Raytraced display modes…and it currently will not work in Mac Rhino’s Rendered mode…until I can get to it.
Thanks,
-Jeff
Thank you! Fortunatelly, I’m using Windows and do not render in Rhino. Rendered mode is all I need to just look how sun rays behave. I hope it can be fixed soon, because I can’t afford going with my work back to Rhino 7…
It appears that this was broken in 8.5… so at the very worst case, you could roll back to 8.4…
-J
This will be fixed in the 8.6 Service Release (SR6).
Thanks,
-Jeff
Hey Jeff,
Is there news on when it will be fixed for MacOs? I would love to use it for my next project but on Version 8.12 it still doesnt work for me…
Hi Paul -
The macOS part of this issue is on the list as RH-78308 Display: Shadows to ignore clipping planes
This is currently on the 8.x list…
-wim
RH-78308 is fixed in Rhino 8 Service Release 14
Rhino 8.14.24317 Windows
Many things are wrong when we set the Rendered view with Clipping Plane and Shadows ignore user defined clipping planes = yes.
I discussed this feature in the context of Visual ARQ in another thread and noticed this BUG in the latest version of Rhino 8. Generally, Shadows ignore user defined clipping planes problems appear and disappear every few versions, I hope that one day they will be able to be banished forever.
Rhino Clipping Planes Problems.3dm (255.5 KB)
System Info
Rhino 8 SR14 2024-11-12 (Rhino 8, 8.14.24317.14001, Git hash:master @ 69ab12ed53cf1e6d17f23ab5fec3c3f7216df72d)
License type: Educational, build 2024-11-12
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.11
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 6-10-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 538.78
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 6-10-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 538.78
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 128MB, Driver date: 4-2-2024 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: Off
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 6-10-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3878
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 11520 MB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoToGrasshopper\RhinoToGrasshopper.rhp “RhinoToGrasshopper” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\Synapse\0.4.0\SynapseRCP.rhp “SynapseRCP” 0.4.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\VisualARQ.rhp “VisualARQ”
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\24.2.0.0\bella_rhino.rhp “Bella” 24.2.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\Crash\1.4.2-beta\Crash.rhp “Crash” 1.4.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Crayon (39629248-4fa6-47b8-83c7-745a7efea259)\1.2.0.0\Crayon\Crayon.rhp “Crayon” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\source\repos\EtoDockableApp\EtoDockableApp\bin\Debug\net48\EtoDockableApp.rhp “EtoDockableApp” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\SubstanceImporter\2.0.7\Substance.Win.rhp “SubstanceImporter” 2.0.7.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Karamba\License\Karamba3D_LicensePlugin_Rhino8.rhp “Karamba3DLicense”
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.14.24317.14001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Rhino Clipping Plane
Visual ARQ Level Cut Plane