Hi Guys,
Section hatch doesn’t appear to be printing with vector output.
Any guesses what’s going on?
Thanks!
-Clay
EDIT:
A little more information: It appears to be exclusively VA objects and va plans/sections. Rhino objects with rhino clipping planes work just fine, but rhino objects with VA plan/sections also cannot vector plot.
Hi Clayton, we are working on this issue. We expect to fix it in the next Beta.
Great! Glad to hear it. The integrations with Rhino section properties is great, looking forward to the bugs getting sorted out.
Hi @fsalla,
Just checking in on this one. Any idea when the next beta will be released? Not having any hatches on sectioned objects is a bit of a problem.
Thanks!
-Clay
Clayton, fresh news! New VisualARQ 3 Beta 6 released! - #7 by enric
Hi Francesc,
Digging this one back up, it appears that plotting walls where their section attributes are set by layer will cause the hatch to not plot when printed as a vector print.
Any chance of getting this one cleared up?
Thanks!
I can confirm that this issue has been solved in the following VisualARQ 3 Beta. My plan is to publish it today or tomorrow.
Regards,
Enric
Excellent! Thanks Enric. I’ll install it and give it a try.
Works perfect now, way more predictable.
I’ll also note for other VA users, now that section hatches can be set in a layer, giving each part of a wall/roof/slab etc it’s own layer to control the lineweights, etc, is an efficient way to control lineweights and hatches across multiple styles with the same type of assembly.
Yes, we’re aware that using “By Layer” section styles is a very efficient way to control hatches and line weights across different wall styles. Francesc Salla is still deciding if VisualARQ 3 templates will use “By Layer” section styles or will assign them in the style editor. The decision is not easy, as VisualARQ 3 for Rhino 7 still uses the old “Section Attributes” which do not support “By Layer” hatches, so we need to create two different versions of all styles.
Regards,
Enric
@Clayton_Muhleman, your opinion (and any other user in this thread) will be appreciated on this topic:
Ideally, we’d like to set up the section styles for VisualARQ objects “by Layer”, in VisualARQ 3 templates. But since the “Line Print Width” attribute is missing in the section styles dialog by Layers (there is a “boundary scale” attribute, but it is only for display purposes), we plan to define the section styles by object style instead, where you can control the Section Boundary Print Width, as it used to be in VisualARQ 2. This way we will also avoid having different templates for the Rhino 7 and there Rhino 8 versions.
Hi @fsalla,
If possible, I’d say the long term right answer would be to have the templates be controlled by layers, mostly because new users tend to open the templates to see what the best practices are and that’s certainly the best setup.
I’m imagining if an office is opening a trial of VA to try it out, it’d be best if they saw the template files with the most effective and efficient workflow as their first experience. The alternative is that they’d have to figure out the best way to set things up, which would effectively shrink your market of users.
Just to be clear, this is the selection box we’re discussing, right?
The larger issue is that the actual section line width control is still a little unpredictable. I’ve been getting around this by changing the layout print width of objects per layout, but it’s going to be a very important feature to be able to be able to control the section/plan cut line width of a layer from one location.
Hi @Clayton_Muhleman thanks for your comments. I also agree that it would be easier to handle section styles by layer.
Yes. In the Rhino 8 Section styles dialog (by Layer), there’s no way to control the section boundary print width. There is a scale parameter and a custom linetype option that opens the custom Linetype dialog, where you apparently should be able to control the width of the section Boundary. But this only works for display purposes. It is not reliable for printing right now. That’s already been reported.
In VisualARQ we have added a true “Print Width” attribute to objects, either in the styles dialog as in the properties panel. All the other attributes are synchronized with the Rhino section styles.
When you set the section Style of a VisualARQ object or style to be controlled “by Layer”, there is no option to control that Print Width. It is only available when you select the Custom option.
I’m sure Rhino will include that Print Width attribute soon or later into their section styles, but until this doesn’t happen, I think it is better to keep the section styles assigned to VisualARQ styles directly in the VisualARQ templates, as it used to be in VisualARQ 2.
That makes sense, if the Rhino section lineweight isn’t working and VA2 isn’t compatible, it makes sense to keep it targeted at the per object rules.
Might be worth posting this question to the Rhino 8 forums, since it’s a little odd this isn’t working yet. I think it’s fair to call this a core function of the section feature.
Thanks!
