Hi, I’m everytime I open my rhino file it becomes unresponsive and essentially freezes if I try to click on anything it turn a layer off, leading to to force quit everytime
Hi Sam,
Please run the SystemInfo command in the Rhino command line and post the results.
Thanks
Hi, everytime I try to run systeminfo the file freezes again
Is this Rhino 8 and you are on a compatible MacOS?
Did load any 3rd party plugins? twinmotions for example?
There’s no third party plugins at the moment
It was only able to load the first few lines for the system info
Rhino 8 SR18 2025-4-10 (Rhino 8, 8.18.25100.11002, Git hash:master ® 5d157e876c23ece334d9c8666b8513ffc6d4a98d)
License type: Educational, build 2025-04-10
License details: Stand-Alone
Apple macOS Version 15.4.1 (Build 24E263) (Physical RAM: 16GB)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro18,1
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0
Metal GPU Family Apple 7
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Apple M1 Pro
Color LCD (1728 x 1117 @ 120.00Hz)
GPU Vendor: Apple
USB devices
None
I was able to run the full system info
Rhino 8 SR18 2025-4-10 (Rhino 8, 8.18.25100.11002, Git hash:master @ 5d157e876c23ece334d9c8666b8513ffc6d4a98d)
License type: Educational, build 2025-04-10
License details: Stand-Alone
Apple macOS Version 15.4.1 (Build 24E263) (Physical RAM: 16GB)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro18,1
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0
Metal GPU Family Apple 7
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Apple M1 Pro
Color LCD (1728 x 1117 @ 120.00Hz)
GPU Vendor: Apple
USB devices
None
Bluetooth devices
None
Third party kernel extensions
None
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Builtin_float.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_StringProcessing.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_errno.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_math.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_signal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_stdio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_time.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsys_time.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftunistd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDistributed.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObservation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSynchronization.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftRegexBuilder.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_RegexParser.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNaturalLanguage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMLCompute.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCompression.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDataDetection.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSwiftOnoneSupport.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libusd_ms.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpatial.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppleArchive.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVideoToolbox.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGameplayKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpriteKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPassKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGLKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetalKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftModelIO.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSceneKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/sampluto/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/8.0/MacPlugIns/Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin.rhp “Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin” 4.2.0.1592
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 8.18.25100.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 8.18.25100.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools” 8.18.25100.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 8.18.25100.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 8.18.25100.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.18.25100.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.18.25100.11002
Lets first troubleshoot by removing the 3rd party plugin.
Everything else about the environment looks OK.
i have attempted to remove the enscape plugin but the file is still freezing straight after opening it
This is a particular file? Can you upload here? If its too large you can upload privately here, just put a link to the forum post in the comments.
Ok, I have uploaded the file privately
I was able to open up the file on my windows machine, haven’t tried on the mac yet.
Its a very large file for the information being conveyed.. 3.2 gb.
Only one BadObject (use SelBadObject command)
I’m going to purge materials and blocks and look at the geometry to try and lighten it up a bit.
Ok thanks for the update
Did the file manage to be opened on the mac?
The majority of file size is in these objects. I’ve split these out to separate files and will send shortly, you can insert as a linked block as needed.
great thank you
SelDup command found 42182 duplicate objects.
There are also 100000 plants that can be pruned. These are really slowing down the viewport. Replacing with a lower resolution object is recommended.
Rhino can handle of these imported objects up to a point, then you need to be judicious on what you are bringing into your file.
The overall goals of the project are important in this regard.
You should receive a link to the files shortly.
thanks for the solution