Rhino 8 is incredibly unreliable! It crashes so frequently

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Rhino 8 is incredibly unreliable! It crashes so frequently, it feels like it happens more often than I draw breath!
I’m unable to utilize it any longer; it crashes nearly every time after loading a Grasshopper and when I use any command it crashes instantly , and sometimes it crashes when I simply click the middle mouse button to access the pop-up menu!

My system Info:
Rhino 8 SR6 2024-3-19 (Rhino 8, 8.6.24079.11001, Git hash:master @ dbefe46c12cda06610a9ab683a211aa3d16f0030)
License type: Commercial, build build 2024-03-19
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [61% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 3-12-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.86
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 3-12-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.86
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 3-12-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5186
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\Lumion-LiveSync-for-Rhino\3.60.65\LumionPlugin.rhp “Lumion LiveSync for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\DesignGold\Rhino 8\DesignGoldWinUI.rhp “DesignGoldWinUI” 1.17.385.0
C:\Program Files\DesignGold\Rhino 8\DesignGold.rhp “DesignGold” 1.17.385.0
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\Iris\0.7.1\Iris.V7.rhp “Iris” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\Bullant\23.10.24.0\bullant.rhp “bullant” 23.10.24.0
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\BlockEditNew\BlockEditNew.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V8\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.3.2.0
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot12RhinoPlugin (78243fe3-17a0-4865-b713-88b4c224c48c)\1.3.0.0\KeyShot2023RhinoPlugin\Rhino 7\KeyShot2023RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot12RhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0
C:\ProgramData\Beam\App\RHINOBEAM.dll “MKS BEAM” 1.10.1.2
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\DATAKIT\Rhino7_Import_x64.rhp “Datakit_to_rhino7”
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\BoltGen_py (283dd9db-bcac-ab3c-9b9a-6f41eaf6160f)\1.0.6992.17251\BoltGen_py.rhp “BoltGen_py” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Karamba\License\Karamba3D_LicensePlugin_Rhino7.rhp “Karamba3DLicense”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.6.24079.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.6.24079.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.6.24079.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.6.24079.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.6.24079.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.6.24079.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\PanelingTools\2021.3.2.446\PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools”

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Please try disabling all third-party plug-ins, restart Rhino and see if that works any better. Then one by one enable each plug-in, try Rhino for a while with Grasshopper and see which plug-in start crashing.

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I’m impressed to see 4 rendering engine plugins are activated on a single rhino session.

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I’ll give it a go, though my suspicion leans towards V-Ray

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When Rhino crashes, do you get a crash reporter dialog? If so, please make sure you send in crashes. If you ensure your e-mail is filled out then I can find and track the crashes better, especially if it is the same as you use here on Discourse.

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Lumion-D5 render, Datasmith exporter, and Keyshot - these are all livelink plugins, not actual render engines. I’ve been experimenting with them recently, but I’ve decided to stick with V-Ray for interiro and D5 for exterior and animation.

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I’ve sent some in the past, but in the next one, I’ll include a link to this Topic.

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In my opinion, I wouldn’t install any third-party plug-ins that aren’t absolutely necessary until I’m sure Rhino V8 works properly on my system.
I would uninstall and do a fresh install of V8 and use V7 for anything non-standard; when I see that everything is ok I would try one plugin at a time (this will take some time to test the system but it would be less painful than the constant crashes…).
This is my approach: OS and drivers update → Installation → testing → GUI customization → testing → third party plugins → testing
In another thread (where crashes were reported) Datasmith exporter was the problem, don’t know if it is the same for you.

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