At least it’s not your full name and real/actual personal information, so don’t let it stress you out. And to be honest I think Wim is doing it just to be polite. He’s definitely not the type to antagonize. I’m sure nowt that you’ve brought it to his attention he won’t do it. Remember that these guys likely have super sharp memories so he probably didn’t even know that much time passed since you last had signed a post with your name.
I’m curious about something:
Are section styles attached to section tools or independent?
Sorry for asking but I just don’t have enough available time to try out R8 yet.
Hi. Keithscadservices. Thanks for your advice.
Hope see you at the VisualARQ Forum. Looks like VA3 WIP is coming soon.
Hi Keith -
I’m afraid that question is a bit general and leaves me guessing what you actually mean. When a section style is assigned to an object or layer, the drawings reflect that style. If not, that’s something specific that we’d have to look into.
-wim
Section styles are a thing of their own, but section tools make use of them. They define the look of regular clipping plane’s sections. Section tools are based on ‘regular’ clipping planes, so…
Since you are a VisualArq user: their section tools are (yet) easier to handle, imho. The new section tools here still feel somewhat, sorry, clunky, comparatively.
Talking about it: here we got a feature ‘doublette’, meaning the same feature implemented twice, with different flavors, for good or bad. From a user’s standpoint it might be confusing to suddenly have 2 locations in the UI where to set up section styles.
Rhino:
VisualArq:
Is this of anybody’s concern?
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Thanks for sharing that Eugen. I owe you one!!
And yes… I think you’re right about the overlap.
Funny story: When I first started using Rhino with Visual ARQ, being a bit of a newb to pretty much everything, I didn’t realize that tab came with VARQ (same with the “Hidden” display mode). It caused a lot of confusion.
I agree. SectionTools has been around for a long time, but it still doesn’t work in the real world practice.
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Sections are part of the documentation of a three-dimensional body. They help to gain a better understanding of the cut body and to convey this understanding to a third person. They are therefore part of a documentation process. The cutting plane therefore provides information about the specific properties of the material being cut. How the cutting plane is represented is therefore very important. And part of an agreement between experts who have agreed on the same reading. Therefore, it is extremely important that the workflow from 3D object to representation follows an understandable logic
How do I change line thickness, hatching, color, etc. into a non-destructive workflow? I think we have to talk about that. I already Posed a Topic: Section Tool Workflow and assigning attributes - but it was not discussed. Would love to see an explanation about an Workflow. That explain how we have control over section thickness, hatching, color, etc. and the documentation in Layouts - final printing as PDF.
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just tried the section tools, its great that you can update views. However what seems to be annoying to do for documentation is to finally tweek how the background lines look and how the section lines look on drawing.
It would be fantastic if the layer & sublayer can be set on the “3d object layer” section style menu, on to which layer + sublayer the 2d line object is placed afterwards. Currently this is all “by object”, or preset within the tool, there seems to be no manual override.
For example, then i could say “i want sections” and of all my wooden objects make the cut line all placed to the same layer “wood::woodcutline” (not distinguished by view or section) and for concrete “concrete::concrete cutline”.
In current manner i would have to duplicate the section to have a section per material and name the sections as such, and afterwards tweak the line properties to read the layer lineweight.
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Hi Raja,
This is the Workflow of everyone who uses the section tool. After creating the section drawing (2D), you must adjoint text, dimensions, figures and so on (in 100% of the cases…). So, if it is impossible to solve this issue, it’s okay, but I would like to note that this is not one specific workflow.
Each time You make some 3D change, You must change the position of the linked 2D objects in the Layout too…it’s a crazy loss of time.
Roy
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Exactly my point. Lots of room for improvement here.
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Unfortunately, using the “section tool” in real work (that could be fundamental if it were working in real-time and with vector output in a better way) becomes similar to the “make 2D” tools with the use of groups, layers and other standard rhino commands. If I must recalculate and move the sections and redo the hatches of the sectioned parts each time I make a 3D little change, what’s the difference with the make 2D rhino tool? It seems to be a duplicate tool.
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Software tools are worthwhile only if they automate boring and repetitious tasks. If there’s still too much handiwork necessary, what’s the point.
Should we continue/repeat to give feedback in the matter of section tools, or is the case closed for now?
Could “the Genius” David Rutten give an eye to this tool and provide some advice? It could be significant.
Section Tools was always giving me this student project vibes. Unfortunately, it’s still giving.
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