Can we continue using Rhino 5 with an upgraded Rhino 6 license or there needs to be separate licenses on Zoo for Rhino 5 and 6?
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I am assuming this is a âLAN / WAN Zooâ question and change category accordingly.
There was a recent discussion about Rhino 5 checking out a âRH5 - upgrade RH6â license that perhaps answers your question. If not, please provide a bit more information.
Hi Wim,
Yeah looking at the post you mentioned it looks like the âRH5 - upgrade RH6â license can be used for both RH5 and RH6. It is not explicitly said but it seems to be the case.
Nathan
There seems to be a dual R5/R6 license per that post that I cannot find documentation for.
Itâs not a dual license, itâs a v5 license that was upgraded to v6. RH5 can still use the license, but so can RH6. Itâs a single license and can only be used on one machine at a time.
When you upgrade from V5, you get a new V6 license.
If you are using LAN Zoo 6, and add your V6 license, it will for a âClusterâ in the Zoo that contains both the V5 and V6 license that upgraded it.
Any computer on the LAN can use the V5 OR the V6 license but not both. This keeps you compliant with the EULA. You can have as many license âclustersâ in your LAN Zoo as you own and can run any combination of V5 and V6.
The exception is if you launch a V6 AND a V5, then you will get the V5 from the cluster you are already using. Your single workstation would not be using 2 separate licenses.
Hereâs a screenshot of my Zoo 6 with a Rhino license cluster and the V5 license in use. There also is a Flamingo license cluster.
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Thank you for the clarification.
Hi @John_Brock
I have a customer whoâs zoo always hands out the upgraded v5->v6 licenses first.
Even though the user only has a new V6 installed, which is a problem when âV5 usersâ logs on late (They use plugins who isnât updated and or approved for production yet) as they can only get a pure V6 licenses.
How can this be handled so a computer with ONLY V6 installed doesnât grab a v5-v6 license?
Hi Holo,
this seems to be similar to
except in my case, an R5 might block an upgraded R5/R6 license. My temporary work-around is to check out the R6 license.
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In a parallel situation, I have a school client who has 1 Rhino/Mac Edu lab license plus 1 Rhino/Windows Edu lab license in a local Zoo. They want to upgrade both to V6. The question is if a V6 Windows machine grabs a license from the Zoo, will it always grab the upgraded Windows license? Because if it indiscriminately grabs the ones that are linked to Mac Rhino, that might restrict the number of Mac (V5) users to less than the 30 total that they should haveâŚ
Hi, I had the same issue recently, my solution was to create a second zoo server on another computer. If a computer never needs the V6 it will target a RH5 only zoo, else it will target a RH5+RH6 zoo.
I guess it could also be done with two small virtual machines instead of physical ones
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I donât like situations where we need to teach users to use âcreativeâ workarounds.
@dale
How is the internal discussion coming along? Any solutions after two months?
Personally I think both a full version and an upgraded version should qualify to open a V5 licesense, since the customer obviously owns at least one upgraded version and then it should not matter what machine it is installed on. And then it becomes the zooâs job to keep track of the number of total licenses in total.
And keep it simple! a v5 license should be handed out when v5 is opened, and âtraded inâ (internally in the zoo) for a v6 license if v6 is opened too. And any V6 should qualify to open V5, regardless of it being an upgrade or not. Make it simple for the users and they will stay lojal.
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There is currently no mechanism in Rhino and the LAN Zoo to make this possible.
It is on the development list but it has to be thought through, designed, implemented, tested, and then deployed.
âCreativeâ work-arounds are the only alternative now:
- Start V5 first
- Use the check out license tool
- Upgrade all the V5s to V6 so you have license parity in the Zoo
Given that your suggestions #1 and #2 above are not possible in a school lab environment -
How will #3 work in my case with 2 V5 lab licenses (1Mac/1PC) if I upgrade them both?
âMitch
Thatâs a pretty difficult answer to give to a clientâŚ
I completely agree.
When we added the ability to cluster V5 and V6 licenses, this was a detail we overlooked.
We became aware of it a couple months ago and it will be addressed.
I donât have anything better to offer.
Well, I might not like the answer, but I thorougly respekt the honesty.
That said, spending months on solving this sounds like it has a too low priority. IMO the main focus should be to keep the customers happy, so I would suggest you make it easy and convinient for them first, ASAP, and then make it correct, so the boss is happy, later.
But thanks for the âworkaroundsâ.
The following might sound like a rant, but it is just my opinion on a better workaround, so please read it accordingly.
I suggest you go for a 4.th workaround and that is that the zoo hands out the extra lisences free to users who has both full versions, upgrades and v5âs installed. THAT is better than suggesting that the allready frustrated users shall shell out even more to work around something you should have solved to begin with.
Keeping customers happy certainly is our overriding priority.
That said, adding this feature to the Zoo is not as important as fixing regressions, crash bugs, and other major problems that are keeping people from getting work done.
I know this issue is painful, and particularly irritating when you arenât being plagued by these other issues, like your V6 not being able to Save, etc.
As we chew through these problems we have determined are more important, then this Zoo problem gets closer to being âin progressâ.
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