Rendering issues with metal

Serengeti (Rhino WIP)
1

Hi

I thought I’d give the WIP a try on my MacBook Pro especially to try out the metal functionality. Apart from it being a lot slower than version 7 (both with OpenGL and metal), when using metal the display is messed up. I’ll try and attach a screen capture.

Screen Shot 2022-04-27 at 12.47.56 PM
Screen Shot 2022-04-27 at 12.47.56 PM1920×1102 132 KB

systeminfo is as follows:

Rhino 8 SR0 2022-4-26 (Rhino WIP, 8.0.22116.12306, Git hash:master @ 03d671c58e622c1af59c363b7c31025cf8e0f70b)
License type: Commercial, build 2022-04-26
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2022-06-10

Apple macOS Version 12.3.1 (Build 21E258) (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro15,1
Language: en-NZ (MacOS default)

AMD Radeon Pro 560X OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-4.8.15)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 4 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 560X
Displays: DELL S2721QS (218dpi 2x), Color LCD (258dpi 2x)

Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
Radeon Pro 560X (4 GB)
Color LCD (1680 x 1050)
DELL S2721QS (2560 x 1440 @ 60.00Hz)

USB devices
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNetwork.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomePubSub.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomeStreams.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRoslyn.rhp “RhinoRoslyn” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/Constraints.rhp “Constraints” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 8.0.22116.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCPython.rhp “RhinoCPython” 8.0.22116.12306
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.0.22116.12306

2

AFAIK metal works only for m1 processors- this will not work on your amd.

@stevebaer correct me if I’m wrong here,

3

That is incorrect. Metal works on non-M1 based Apple computers. We will eventually use metal as the display technology for all Macs running Rhino 8.

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I’m surprised to hear it is slower than v7 with metal enabled. Can you share this model that is displaying incorrectly?

5

I’m happy to hear that my Intel Macs will be supported in version 8, you had me worried that I’d need an upgrade.

@Steve Do you have an FTP server that I can upload the model to, it’s quite a large file?

6

Hi Rick -

Use Rhino - Upload to Support to upload large files. Make sure to copy the URL of this thread into the comments field on that page.
-wim

7

Thanks Wim, I’ve uploaded the file successfully.

9

Thanks, Rick.
There are quite a few missing image files but that doesn’t seem to matter much - it’s quite a bit slower on Rhino 8 with Metal than on Rhino 7 on my machine as well. I’m sure Steve will take a closer look.
-wim

11

Hi Wim, let me know if you need the image files. They’re just simple textures like steel and bronze, but as the rendering issues occur in shaded mode I don’t think they’re needed as you say.

12

thanks for the clarification-