Hello,
Rhino 6 SR28 2020-7-17
8700k 32GB, RTX2070 studio driver 451.77, Windows 10 current version.
I’m evaluating switching from Sketchup & Vray to Rhino & Vray for architectural visualization.
My workflow includes making a floorplan (was Sketchup export), and then Vray rendering perspective views.
I haven’t installed Vray for Rhino yet.
In Rhino I’ve created some custom display styles, when I save a named view or use snapshot, the display style doesn’t remain. It changes based on what is set for the last view. And it changes as I move through the views.
Even after updating the view as “save as” and overwriting.
I created a template with display set to a custom display shaded & textures
As well the tabs for named views changes & duplicates certain views periodically.
Not sure what to do here, I’ve researched and I see this is a problem from time to time.
Thanks,
Glenn
Hello - I assume you are checking the box for display modes when saving the snapshot, correct?
-Pascal
thanks for the fast reply,
Yes, I’m actually unchecking & rechecking “select all” to make sure it grabs everything.
Glenn
Hi Glenn - just as a test, can you scroll down and select that setting explicitly, and see if that makes a difference? Here it works either way …
-Pascal
I selected that setting.
Didn’t work, display type (for both snapshots & named views) still changes depending on the prior view.
Glenn
sorry forgot to mention, I’m using a clipping plane for the top view (to see as a section).
Glenn
Hm. It is all working as I expect here so far - can you please export your custom display mode from Options > View > Display modes and post it here?
-Pascal
Here you go, & thanks for the effort.
Glenncopy GG 20200731 Large Objects - Inches.3dm (37.7 KB) copy gg ui settings 20200802.ini (149.2 KB) Pen copy gg.ini (11.5 KB) shaded textures GG.ini (12.5 KB) shaded textures PLAN GG.ini (12.5 KB)
sorry hit send to fast, the “shaded textures” are the custom display modes in the model I sent.
The rest is in case that might help?
Glenn
Hi Glenn - thanks - this is more than just the clipping plane being enabled or not, is that correct? I can repeat a bug where the clipping is ignored when resetting views, but this seems unrelated to snapshots. I need to toggle the clipping plane off and back on for the view (Top) in question for it to have an effect after a view reset (4View).
RH-59870 Clipping plane is ignored on resetting views
-Pascal
Yes correct, more than clipping issue. Clipping actually worked out correctly after some messing about with display style & clip view in properties.
It’s the display modes that won’t stay assigned in named views or snapshots.
And they sometimes change when I click the icon rmb 4 default viewports, or lmb 4 viewports. That resets to wireframe. My default template has the views set with shaded texture gg.
Could I have messed something up in the UI or a template file (I made a copy so I can get back to Rhino original)?
Should I try resetting UI etc back to Rhino standard (what we start with at installation)?
Or should I try repair or reinstall?
I’m 10 days into evaluation, only working on Rhino training material, and exploring workflow options with all the new ways of modeling (compared to Sketchup).
So I won’t loose anything.
Your thoughts?
Thanks,
Glenn
Since I was 15 years into a Sketchup workflow, and 2 with Vray, how should I set up views for Rhino-Vray rendering?
Typical project: room interior, need 3 or 4 perspective views (VRAY) and 1 top view (was Sketchup export) with a couple dimensions.
I have explored Rhino layout, and that looks promising for the top view.
Thank you for your assistance,
Glenn
Hi Glenn - 4View sets four default viewports - if your Top is in some display mode it should stay that way, but if your view is in view ‘10’ and you run 4View, you will lose that view’s display mode (because view ‘10’ goes away) and it will be Top’s. None of that is dependent on templates. The clipping plane thing is certainly a bug. I think the rest is working as it is intended to - but I am not sure: I cannot repeat what you report for snapshots and named views losing the display mode - that certainly sounds wrong.
-Pascal
Well, I’m not sure how to proceed.
All I want to do is make scene(s) that is similar to Sketchup scene tabs & styles that I will then render in Vray.
Assuming I messed something up, should I:
restore defaults?
Repair or reinstall Rhino?
Then test this issue with standard (clean, un-modified) Rhino, if it works, remake my custom display types, template, UI, etc, 1 at a time & test to see if it is one or a combination?
If I should reset, what do you recommend?
I have time right now, as a few projects are on hold.
For background, I’ve been using CAD since 1985, Architectural illustration with Sketchup since 2005, Vray for 2 years and Twilight render for 2 years before that.
Glenn
Hi Glenn - the files you have sent do not include any saved snapshots - can you make a simple example that shows the snapshot problem and post that?
-Pascal
Sorry for the delay, I thought some of the original screen grabs were from snapshot, but I was adding & deleting snapshots to see if there was some interference with named views.
Snapshot appears to work correctly in snapshot file, with layers & display type.
Snapshot: I just realized since I am starting from perspective view, orbiting or placing camera/target, setting layers, display view, etc, then saving snapshot, perspective view tab holds that state.
So I might need to save a snapshot of perspective view in a state I want to go back to as a working view instead of clicking on the tabs for views?
In snapshot & namedview file, Named views isn’t giving me what I want,
Named view isn’t respecting layer status or display type.
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding how to use namedviews?
I haven’t installed Vray Rhino yet, can Vray render from snapshot?
If it can, then perhaps sticking with snapshots only and not using named views will be best for what I want to do?
Thank you,
Glenn
snapshot 20200811.3dm (445.0 KB) snapshot and namedviews 2 20200811.3dm (508.8 KB)
Hi Glenn - I think snapshots are what you are after - NamedView does not do anything with layers, materials, etc - that is the job of Snapshot.
I do not have VRay - I would expect it to take whatever view is active and render that with all the current materials and so on as controlled by Snapshot, but I am not a good resource for VRay - I think you’ll just have to try it and see.
Snapshot saves the state of the current view - it will restore to whatever viewport is current when you restore it - I am not sure if that addresses your question…
-Pascal
Thanks for all your help, snapshots it is.
I’ll probably grab the evaluation version of Vray around the end of the month, to give more a couple more weeks Rhino training.
If there are any issues with snapshot & Vray I’ll let you know.
Glenn