Pen Background in unselected Viewports/Layouts

Hi all, I’m hoping this isn’t a question that’s been answered a thousand times, I did try to search, I promise.

We’ve recently bumped up to R7 after a long time in R5 and it’s been a mostly smooth transition. One notable difference that’s throwing me off is the way R7 handles displaying viewports in layouts when they’re set to display modes with background images (Pen/Artistic).

In R5, a viewport set to pen view would display the same as any other viewport when you were not working within it, transparent and showing the layout’s page color behind it. Now in R7, it displays the viewport’s extents with a lighter color and an even lighter color when two viewports overlap.

Here’s the view in R5

The same in R7

I’m hoping there’s a simple setting that I’ve missed that turns this feature off, otherwise I suppose I’ll just have to get used to it (who would want that)

Hi Chris - can you post or send to an example V5 file that looks wrong in V7? Please include a link back to this topic in your comments to tech.


Pascal, thanks I’ve sent an email along.

Posting the file here as well: HHOF 1_v5.3dm (15.6 MB)

Hi Chris - just fyi, files posted here are public - not sure if that matters here - in any case what I see here is this - top = detail is active, bottom, details is inactive…

I think that is what you expect to see, correct? Can you please run the SystemInfo command in Rhino and copy/paste the results here.

Oops - that was Windows - I see the problem on mac.
RH-63140 Display: Background of inactive details


Pascal, thanks for the heads up, I was aware so I tried to snip out any particularly sensitive info just wanted to pull an old file that would replicate the issue and was in a rush.

Your screenshots are what I’d expect to see but as you said, it seems to be a mac specific behavior. One odd thing is that the viewports seem to be in wireframe, when the file was saved with those set to Pen…

System info is as follows:

Rhino 7 SR3 2021-2-22 (Rhino 7, 7.3.21053.23032, Git hash:master @ f8a40388712d9cf7edc68910e0415427bdefc64a)
License type: Commercial, build 2021-02-22
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G1012) (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: iMac18,3
Language: en (MacOS default)

AMD Radeon Pro 580 OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-2.11.21)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 580
Displays: iMac (217dpi 2x), HP 27er (82dpi 1x)

Graphics processors
Radeon Pro 580 (8 GB)
iMac (2560 x 1440)
HP 27er (1920 x 1080)

USB devices
Logitech: USB Receiver
Broadcom Corp.: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
Blue Microphones: Blue Snowball

Bluetooth devices

Third party kernel extensions
com.valvesoftware.SteamInput (4357.73.42) 17B6ECD0-A50A-3D6A-B350-9C70805EE129
com.AmbrosiaSW.AudioSupport (4.2) A2902F89-46AD-324C-B033-A965FFD16BEE
com.getdropbox.dropbox.kext (1.13.0) 4FFF485B-204E-3E48-BC54-C1D406AB9E75

Third party plugins

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino “Snapshots” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “Rhino Bonus Tools” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “PanelingTools” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “AnimationTools” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “Renderer Development Kit” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “Displacement” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.3.21053.1002
/Applications/Rhino “Commands” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Import_OBJ” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “export_xaml” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “QuadRemesh” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “export_OBJ” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “RDK_EtoUI” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Export SVG” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “MeshCommands” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Export_DAE” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “PDF Export” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “IGES Export Plug-in” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Import_SVG” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “BlockEdit” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Export_AMF” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Rhino Render” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Import_DST” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “PLY - Polygon File Format Export” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Import_AMF” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “RhinoCycles” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “IronPython” 7.3.21053.23032
/Applications/Rhino “Grasshopper” 7.3.21053.23032

RH-63140 is fixed in the latest Rhino 7.8 Service Release Candidate

And just like that it’s in the main service release, just wanted to say thanks for the great service guys!

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RH-63140 is fixed in Rhino 7 Service Release 12 Release Candidate