PDF Print to Vector Broken

VisualARQ
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Hello,

It seems I have encountered an odd bug.

Printing with vector output exports a pdf with many issues, some hatches disappear and lines are shown that shouldn’t be visible. If raster is turned on, it all prints correctly, but for a drawing set this is not reasonable.

Raster ON
Raster ON2626×1718 342 KB

Vector ON
Vector ON1920×1249 144 KB

And if I disregard the missing hatches and focus on the quality of the vector print, the results are very dirty…

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image1920×1598 190 KB

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image1644×1462 350 KB

I thought this might be my pc as I didn’t see any post regarding this… I have done a clean install of windows and rhino8+visualarq3 yesterday but the issue persists. Im using VA Hidden view and connecting some files though a worksession.

Every time I open this file to experiment on it a little bit, a new issue happens and I find myself spending more time fixing things than working…I’ve completed this project on Archicad and im just trying to see if I can do everything in Rhino with VA which would be the dream, but starting to feel disillusioned and thinking Im gonna have to renew my ArchiCAD license this year again…

3D model:

Here is my system info

Rhino 8 SR18 2025-4-10 (Rhino 8, 8.18.25100.11001, Git hash:master @ 5d157e876c23ece334d9c8666b8513ffc6d4a98d)
License type: Educational, build 2025-04-10
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (NVidia) Memory: 12GB, Driver date: 4-12-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 576.02
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 0

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-12-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.7602
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 12 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\VisualARQ.rhp “VisualARQ”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\System\netcore\export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 8.18.25100.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

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Here is the pdf printed in question:
250502_Rua da Torre 28_BIM_EXEC.pdf (1.5 MB)

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Another example this sofa is printed incorrectly on vector vs raster, there are 1000s or mistakes like this…

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Also I get the occasional slab tumor when a window or wall gets edited…

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Double check your file units and tolerances. Some mistakes there look like they could be due to too low tolerance…

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Hi @lourencovp ,

Looks like the same issue I had. And hopefully it’s fixed in next RC, as per Youtrack.

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Its also freezing randomly when editing a VA object, most of the times it simply doesn’t come back and stays frozen and eventually crashes…

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Hello,
There could be another issue: I think it’s very likely your element is built with some meshes. in my experience they don’t work very well when creating live plan view. So, there could be quite easy solution. Just add some 2D representation of your element and you will always have the proper drawing.
Cheers, Jaro

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Thank you, will give it a try!

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Hi @lourencovp

I can see the hatches of objects that are not in the active file across worksessions are not printed. We will review this error and get back to you when it is fixed.

Regarding the “dirty” printing results of some parts, if you increase the dpi resolution of the vector output, you may get a better results. Same for the printing results of some furnishing elements, like the sofa. In those cases, we will review why the results are so different than the real object.

Please note that the vector printing quality currently offered by VisualARQ, although it allows you to print to PDF, is designed for the result as seen on paper, hat is, by the human eye, so there are inaccuracies that are not noticeable. However, we understand that higher precision and quality are required for PDFs, so we will work to improve these results in the upcoming updates of the program. I’ll keep you informed about this development.

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I cannot reproduce this error. Could you indicate which objects are you moving/editing to get this tumor?

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its pretty random, but sometimes its just moving a wall from one location to another or just adjusting its length will fuse it with the slab its in contact with. try the basement inner wall and moving them around, does the trick for me