Mouse is Stirring

Rhino Rhino for Windows
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I’m seeing a strange problem with my RMB when rotating the view. Because as soon as I press RMB I get the last used command popping up, which is obviously interfering with the view rotation. And this last used command prompt will repeat itself over and over again as long as I’m trying to rotate my view. It started a few days ago. I think after the latest Rhino 7 update. It’s hard to say for certain as I haven’t been using rhino for the past few weeks. But it is very unusual because I see it also affecting my V5, V6, V7 and V8. BTW none of any other programs installed on my computer seems to be affected.

I tried switching right and left button functions using the Logitech mouse driver. It works and the problem goes away when rotating with the RMB, except everything else slows down dramatically. I’m not used to opposite buttons set up. My work becomes crawling instead of driving…

I was wondering if there is a way to disable RMB repeat last command function in rhino. I looked up the advanced setting but can’t find anything.

My desktop is very old but still sufficient for my modest needs. Below are the specifics. Thanks.

Rhino 7 SR32 2023-8-9 (Rhino 7, 7.32.23221.10241, Git hash:master @ 3d9c816c4cd57561d12d8f53246bce304f314ba2)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-08-09
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 12Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 (NVidia) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 5-11-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 474.44
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 0

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-11-2023
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7444
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 2 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\Darius\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SubstanceImporter\2.0.1\Substance.Win.rhp “SubstanceImporter” 2.0.1.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.32.23221.10241
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.32.23221.10241
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.32.23221.10241
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Alerter.rhp “Alerter”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.32.23221.10241
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.32.23221.10241
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.32.23221.10241
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

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Hello- I would try a different mouse as a first test…

-Pascal

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Outrageous…! This mouse ( M510 ) is only 5 months old. Previous one ( M100 ) was so uncomfortable I had to replace it. Now, following your advice I hooked it up again and it works… uncomfortable like hell but it functions in Rhino properly…

Any advice on inexpensive yet domesticated mice I can adopt tomorrow…?

Thanks a bunch.

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this is what I’ve mostly been using every day for a few yrs now:

I’m not a huge fan of the size of them, but they’re aight…

this is prob my favorite one:

But I will have to built my new desktop to use the new one I have still unopened. my older one got all dusty and worn out. plus my boss wasn’t able to use my computer at the time, cause he didn’t know how to use trackball :sweat_smile:

but imma build me new pc and start using trackball again…

I built my boss a new computer, and just set em up w/ one o’ these today:

imma have ta get me one too :joy:

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Thanks. Haven’t used trackball, not to mention fancy sapcemouse, maybe it’s a good time to have a go…

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I recommend Logitech G502. Excellent ergonomics and a bunch of customizable buttons that will greatly enhance your workflow in Rhino.

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I have two M720’s

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There is a newer model of the Logitech G502, called Logitech G502 X, which is considerably lighter (89 grams) than its predecessor (my Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum weights 121 grams) and comes with some nice enhancements of the ergonomics and general build quality. There are also two wireless versions, however, they are twice the cost while offering basically the same feel (except for the lack of a cable, of course).

P.S.: I also own Razer Basilisk V3 Chroma RGB, which is a shameless copycat of the Logitech G502 (ergonomics-wise), but in reality it’s far behind the G502. The Razer feels plasticky (G502 has a rubber-like material of the body and the main left and right buttons), and the sniper button (the one under the left thumb) is extremely uncomfortable to the finger and too hard to click. The mouse scroll, on the other hand, feels great (that was the only downside of the old G502’s metal scroll wheel, which is now fixed in the newer G502 X model). The Logitech G502 also has a couple extra customizable buttons in comparison, as well as better software to create macros and adjust the DPI rates.

P.S.2: If you choose to use the Logitech G502, I strongly recommend you to stick to its “Logitech gaming software” version 8.96.88, because it has much simpler looking menus than the newer versions.

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Guys, thank you for the advice. Appreciate it.

Actually I decided it might be a good time to finally give a try to trackball mouse. Kensington in particular. Unfortunately I couldn’t find any local stores that carry them. So in the interim I got myself another Logi mouse to use until I ordered Kensington online. But it turns out this temp mouse ( M500s ) is so good I’m going to stick with it until it wears off. Trackball purchase postponed again.

In fact because it’s corded the new mouse is significantly lighter and nimble than the wireless one. Also I suspect my aged rig works somewhat better with corded devices.

What a relief seeing rhino behaving like a well domesticated beast again…

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Nice to hear that you found a new mouse that works the way you want! :slight_smile:
By the way, I just bought myself Logitech Lift Vertical (Graphite/Black) for use outside Rhino (Internet browsing etc), because it’s a vertical mouse which is far more comfortable than regular mice.

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Well, the Logitech Lift Vertical’s software turned out to interfere with my 3d mouse (SpacePilot), so I had to return it, even though I liked it a lot. For some weird reason “Logitech” decided to use browser-based software for the customization of this particular mouse and that causes problems while trying to use a 3d mouse in Rhino. Not sure if it’s just my PC or there is some issue with the new software. My G502 Proteus Spectrum uses a much better software called “Logitech Gaming software” and it works perfectly fine. I have zero issues with my 3d mouse with it.
So, I just returned the Logitech Lift Vertical and bought G502 X instead.

The G502 X is nearly identical to G502 Proteus Spectrum, except that it’s very lightweight and the mouse wheel is rubberized this time around. Two very welcome changes that make the user experience better, in my opinion. On the downside, scrolling with the G502 X’s mouse wheel produces much more noise, but this is something that hopefully will get toned down after a few months of usage.

Even though it’s just my first day with Logitech G502 X, I strongly recommend it over the older G502 models. It’s a more refined version with a pretty good price now.

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You will Love this mouse. At least, I do. Have used this with Rhino for the past 3-4 years. Lifetime for this mouse for me is about ~ 1 to 1.5 years.
It has 9 customizable buttons aside from the Right and Left mouse button. They are customizable through the user interface.
HUGE Trackball – ELECOM USA

Amazon.com: ELECOM HUGE Trackball Mouse, Wired, Finger-Operated, 8-Button Function, Palm Rest Attached, 52mm Smooth Red Ball Windows11, macOS (M-HT1URBK) : Everything Else

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Thanks, almost bought it. Japanese made should be of good quality. I like the size too. But for now just added to my wish list…

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Hey @Ryan14 would you happen to have any screen recordings of using the Huge inside of Rhino?

Thx

Alan