Major Rhino 6 performance issues on Win 10

rasmus.sainmaa · November 13, 2018, 11:19am

Hi,

I’m having major performance issues on Rhino 6 Win 10.
If I draw any types of lines it takes like 1-2 seconds between each click. No matter the render mode or viewport. Basic solid shape tools seem to work little faster.

Any idea whats this about? I just got this laptop and I’m pretty sure I also managed to install the latest drivers. And my coworkers have similar issues with Rhino 6 + Win 10 also and my other laptop with Rhino 6 + Win 7 works just fine. I can’t work with this machine currently.

Going through some other posts with similar issues gave me no insight on how to fix this (Rhino 6 viewport slow performance DPI scaling performance issue in Rhino 6?)

Heres my systeminfo:

Rhino 6 SR10 2018-11-7 (Rhino 6, 6.10.18311.20531, Git hash:master @ 0f9089a0035dcc6955732d57071445ecc29390f0)
Licence type: Commercial, build 2018-11-07
License details: LAN Zoo Network Node

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Machine name: FIPCLW10385

Quadro P3200/PCIe/SSE2 (OpenGL ver:4.6.0 NVIDIA 416.81)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: None
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 11-2-2018
Driver Version: 25.21.14.1681
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.10.18311.20531
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.10.18311.20531
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Users\firass\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\6.0\Plug-ins\Lumion LiveSync for Rhino (839d6175-32d1-4ffe-a0a4-b7fb43cf0ff5)\2018.10.30.683\Lumion\Rhino 6.0\LumionPlugin.rhp “Lumion LiveSync for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.10.18311.20531
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.10.18311.20531
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

rasmus.sainmaa · November 13, 2018, 11:44am

On a sidenote anything produced from GH seems not to be an issue.

Heres my systeminfo on the win 7 machine:

Rhino 6 SR9 2018-9-28 (Rhino 6, 6.9.18271.20591, Git hash:master @ 4cf7435f08f51c972347c8558d28355cfc0471ca)
Licence type: Commercial, build 2018-09-28
License details: LAN Zoo Network Node

Windows 7 SP1 (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Machine name: FILT161185

Quadro K4100M/PCIe/SSE2 (OpenGL ver:4.6.0 NVIDIA 398.75)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-24-2018
Driver Version: 24.21.13.9875
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.9.18271.20591
C:\Program Files\Geometry Gym\Rhino3d\BullAnt.rhp “bullant” 1.3.4.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Karamba_1_x_x_Rhino6Plugin.rhp “Karamba_1_x_x”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.9.18271.20591
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Users\firass\AppData\Roaming\Grasshopper\EnvironmentTools\SwecoRhinoPlugins.rhp “SwecoRhinoPlugins” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 6.9.18271.20591
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.9.18271.20591
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 6.9.18271.20591
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.9.18271.20591
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

wim · November 13, 2018, 1:28pm

How is the performance when you start Rhino in safe mode?

stevebaer · November 13, 2018, 3:30pm

Just to be sure, I would try disabling the lumion plugin in the pluginmanager and try restarting Rhino to see if the plugin could possibly be affecting performance.

rasmus.sainmaa · November 14, 2018, 6:58am

Safe mode and disabling Lumion does nothing.
TestMaxSpeed shows FPS around 100 when ran.

wim · November 14, 2018, 7:28am

I’m not sure if I understand this one.
When I run this on a simple scene here, I get the following:

Time to regen viewport 100 times = 1.84 seconds. (54.23 FPS)

Are you are getting 100 FPS?

Also, just to be sure, you are seeing this in a new empty scene from a factory-default template?

rasmus.sainmaa · November 14, 2018, 10:42am

Yes, I’m seeing it on a new empty scene from a factory-default template showing ~100 FPS with _TestMaxSpeed and monitoring usage of my CPU showed some spiking, usage went from 5% to 20% when iniating drawing a polyline and clicking points on it.

Can’t get screenshots currently since I delivered to IT maintenance.

@wim do you think this could be a BIOS issue? I know our IT department has held-up some BIOS updates from our computers?

wim · November 14, 2018, 11:33am

Rasmus, just so that we are on the same page - 100 FPS is good, it’s about twice as fast as my PC can redraw the scene (without knowing your screen size, etc).

So, navigation in the scene is good but it’s when you need to draw something that the system slows down?

Can you post a screenshot of your Windows’ Device Manager? Something like this:

If you have two display adapters, can you also post the driver details of the second GPU?
Thanks.

rasmus.sainmaa · November 14, 2018, 11:52am

Yes exactly, navigation is very good but drawing any types of lines seems to make everything slow down immensly.

Here’s a screenshot of my performance from task manager:

rasmus.sainmaa · November 26, 2018, 6:28am

Problem is fixed. Caused by a software called Avecto which gives admin access to users without admins rights and monitors yours softwares which would require it. For some reason this monitoring and requesting admin rights (?) made starting commands in Rhino super slow. Simple exception rule for Rhino 6 in Avecto fixed this issue.

travis.potts · May 7, 2019, 8:53pm

I had the same problem as above and I’m using a somewhat high end workstation. I updated the Avecto software and it fixed the problem. Took me forever trying to troubleshoot the video card drivers, firmware, and settings only to have another program causing the issue. Must be something in the permissions granted in Windows 10 and this other software package.