Layer color not showing the picker

Hi Brian,
Thanks for your reply.

Just tried again with ColorPicker Plugin disabled and enabled.
Tried also to hold Alt key but no change
You can find a video here.
My suspect is that “default” make actually point the command somewhere else??
We can arrange a zoom call or remote control of my PC if this can help.

Thanks for the video, it was clearer than the last one. I’m checking with a few of my colleagues here to see what else we can suggest. Out of curiosity, have you checked your Windows update history log? Are you missing any updates or did any fail? If you can run the command SystemInfo in Rhino 7 and return that text in reply that will also give us more details that could help.

If it is working in 8, then it sure sounds like there is some plug-in getting in the way. Can you look at the plug-in manager for V7 and V8 and see if there are any different plug-ins listed?

Hi Brian,
looks like no update failed
Below you can find SystemInfo and screenshot of Windows update history log

Rhino 7 SR3 2021-1-12 (Rhino 7, 7.3.21012.11001, Git hash:master @ 93cfba46488299a62365c4ea00af2e011f3d3950)
License type: Evaluation, build 2021-01-12
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2021-02-25

Windows 10.0.19041 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 12-11-2020 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.89
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 12-11-2020
Driver Version: 27.21.14.6089
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\SimLab\Plugins\SimLab Rhino Integration\SimLabComposerIntegration.rhp “SimLab Composer Integration”
C:\Program Files\Orca3D V2\Orca3D.rhp “Orca3D” 2.0.19.0
C:\Users\luca\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\ColorPicker\6.0.0\ColorPicker.rhp “ColorPicker”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Users\luca\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SectionTools\2020.12.7.446\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Do you mean Rhino Plug-ins or Plug-ins which do not ship with Rhino?
Please see screenshot

Even though the color picker is listed as “not enabled”, it looks like it is somehow still loading based on your SystemInfo report

Try this:

  • Close Rhino 7
  • In file explorer, go to C:\Users\luca\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\ColorPicker
  • Delete the ColorPicker directory
  • Start Rhino 7

Done,
does not work!

Rhino 7 SR3 2021-1-12 (Rhino 7, 7.3.21012.11001, Git hash:master @ 93cfba46488299a62365c4ea00af2e011f3d3950)
License type: Evaluation, build 2021-01-12
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2021-02-25

Windows 10.0.19041 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 12-11-2020 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.89
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 12-11-2020
Driver Version: 27.21.14.6089
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.3.21012.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Users\luca\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SectionTools\2020.12.7.446\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Ok, the next step is to try restoring your settings to their default state.

  • Close Rhino 7
  • In file explorer go to %appdata%\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\settings. Rename those two xml files to have a different name. I would suggest changing the extension to .xml.orig
  • Start Rhino 7

If this doesn’t work, you can restore your customizations by closing Rhino and renaming those two files to their previous names

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Hi @luca4,

Could you also try running the command “TestSystemScreenInfo”, and pasting the output here? This might give us a clue why it is not showing up. Also, after you click the buttons to bring up the color picker, do you have to press escape to continue working with Rhino, or is Rhino still responsive to other input/clicks?

It Does Works!!!
Apart from renaming the files I trashed four relics from BricsCAD trial

Screen Information:
Screen 0
IsPrimary: True
Bounds: 0,0,1920,1200
WorkingArea: 0,0,1920,1170
LogicalPixelSize: 1
Scale: 1.333333

Screen 1
	IsPrimary: False
	Bounds: 1920,0,1920,1200
	WorkingArea: 1920,0,1920,1170
	LogicalPixelSize: 1
	Scale: 1.333333

Window Positions (Commands):
Rhino.UI.DialogPanels.BridgeCommandDialog:
RestoreBounds: 182,182,300,250
Rhino.UI.Controls.RhinoColorDialog:
RestoreBounds: 449,262,638,513
Rhino.UI.Controls.RTextObjectPanel:
RestoreBounds: 2728,311,303,548
Commands.Commands.Make2DCommand.Make2DPanel:
RestoreBounds: 2734,333,291,504
Rhino.UI.Controls.RLeaderPanel:
RestoreBounds: 2716,288,327,594
Commands.Commands.ViewCaptureCommand.ViewCapturePanel:
RestoreBounds: 2682,275,396,619
Rhino.UI.Controls.RhinoColorPanel:
RestoreBounds: 449,262,638,513
Rhino.UI.Controls.RhinoDialogTableLayout:
RestoreBounds: 2928,509,350,350
Commands.UI.AnnotationStyles.NewStyleDialogPanel:
RestoreBounds: 2730,305,300,560
Rhino.UI.Controls.RTextPanel:
RestoreBounds: 2021,221,780,677

No I had not to click ESC. Rhino WAS working fine apart from the Picker not showing.
Hopefully this has been resolved!
Thanks!!

Thank you ALL for this Support.
I will update to 7 straight away.
:grinning:

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Hey @luca4,

That’s great that you got it working! Do you still have your old settings (and willing to share)? I’d like to get to the bottom of why it is not showing up as other users are starting to run into this as well.

Cheers

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Sure!
should I share here or privately?
dunno which information is stored on those files…

Thank you, I had this exact problem. Clicking on the layer color in the layer sidebar did nothing in V7 (evaluation version). Renaming the two xml files and restarting Rhino V7 fixed the problem. I can also share these if it is of any help.

To be honest I’m not sure either, so perhaps send it to me directly at curtis@mcneel.com.

Yes please, to my email address above.

Thanks for helping get this resolved.

Hi Curtis, please find the original xml files attached. Their file endings are renamed, as indicated in the forum post.

If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.

Best,

Michael

Michael Grugl

Department of Interior Architecture | Rhode Island School of Design | mgrugl@risd.edu

SIXTUS.Partners Architekten | Altstadt 28, 4020 Linz – Austria | mg@sixtuspartners.com | +43 660 450 5005

(Attachment settings-Scheme__Default.xmlorig is missing)

(Attachment window_positions-Scheme__Default.xmlorig is missing)

Hi Curtis, I tried to send the two xml files, but these attachments were rejected by your email server. Trying with copies of their contents.

Settings-Scheme_Default.xml

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</settings>

I hope this helps you with getting to the root of this malfunction. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.

Best,

Michael

Michael Grugl

Department of Interior Architecture | Rhode Island School of Design | mgrugl@risd.edu

SIXTUS.Partners Architekten | Altstadt 28, 4020 Linz – Austria | mg@sixtuspartners.com | +43 660 450 5005

Thanks @luca4 and @mgrugl for sending those along! On initial inspection I think I know where the problem lies.

Additionally, I think something in Rhino is silently burying these crashes which has made it difficult to find this, which I will ensure gets fixed up as well. It should allow us to find and fix problems such as these much sooner in the future.

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