Glitch in Rendered view

Hello,

With the R8 for Mac update, I started to get random display glitches. This usually happens with curved surfaces.

This is my geometry in shaded view;


When I move to rendered view i get these weird faceted shadows;

But when i put the object display mode in rendered and keep the viewport in shaded view, I don’t get the glitch:

A close up of the glitch:

Is there a way to fix this?
Thank you,

this is my system info:
Rhino 8 SR6 2024-4-10 (Rhino 8, 8.6.24101.05002, Git hash:master @ 32c244aa711e0034e75bec2e87d093c764820b96)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-04-10
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple macOS Version 14.3 (Build 23D56) (Physical RAM: 32GB)
Mac Model Identifier: Mac14,6
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0

Metal GPU Family Apple 7
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Apple M2 Max
Color LCD (1728 x 1117 @ 120.00Hz)

USB devices
None

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
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/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib
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This is the test file:
renderview_glitch.3dm (4.1 MB)

Hi Faysal,

Not seeing this in the daily build.

Can you try the release candidate? 8.7.24107.13002

this is available if you go to your Settings>General>Updates tab

Thanks

Hello @Japhy I just updated to the release candidate but still getting the same issue, some times the glitch spreads to the whole screen like this;

Rhino 8 SR7 2024-4-16 (Rhino 8, 8.7.24107.13002, Git hash:master @ aa01e3b9820d84a48c2a812d24f0cf42379ee3d8)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-04-16
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple macOS Version 14.3 (Build 23D56) (Physical RAM: 32GB)
Mac Model Identifier: Mac14,6
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0

Metal GPU Family Apple 7
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Apple M2 Max
Color LCD (1728 x 1117 @ 120.00Hz)

USB devices
Apple Inc.: iPhone
PixArt: Dell MS116 USB Optical Mouse

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

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/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
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Lets try the Reset command, all the way to factory if that’s ok.

I see some messiness at certain zoom levels here - still poking at it.

@Faysal_SS am I correct that some of the objects have been deformed with CageEdit, or OrientOnSrf or similar? If so, do you have the originals?

-Pascal

@Japhy @pascal

I still get the same issue after the reset command, it’s weird that it only happens at certain zoom levels and angles.

@pascal

I haven’t used cage edit,

The part you zoomed in is just a surface from planar curves then I rebuilt the surface and deformed the surface with points on, and then offset the surface to give some thickness.

The handle is a piped curve with scale2d. The organic form on the side of the bag, is just loft between 2 curves and then i rebuilt the surface.

The front and back face of the bag is just a surface from planar curves and I connected them to the bottom surface with blend sruface.

Not sure how I can share the originals of the geometries?

thank you for the fast response btw!

Hi Faysal - ok - thanks - nothing jumps out at me here that would explain why this is happening, I will put it in front of the developers.
It does seem to matter what else is in the scene - if I hide all the other stuff, the fittings render OK. Some kind of self-shadowing effect, I am guessing.

RH-81653 Messy rendered vp

-Pascal