Fullscreen WISH WISH WISH


#1

hi guys and girls and developers and programmers and whoever may read this.

i am requesting this with sincere hope that a rhino native fullscreen for mac gets considered rather sooner than later. i know this option is available on pc and i really would wish to have a clear clean option to model without anything hanging around from time to time. i can see its on the list for commands which are not yet on mac but i have no idea if this ever will make it. will it?

the mac native fullscreen is by all means not an option because it creates a new space and breaks a intuitiv fast flow due to its slow animated space changing and anyway still some bars are left so its not a real “fullscreen” however one would want to define that. also dragging picture frames into the viewport which hopefully also will come soon is not possible like that so sooner or later this has to be thought over anyway.

NewFloatingViewport would be neat if one could use it as a regular working space meaning that one could switch viewports in this window. but in the current state its nothing more than a locked up presentation screen which fails to fulfill a regular working condition.

there sure is evidence that people would like to have such an option when i scroll through the rhino discourse…
so guys, really i beg you to consider this please please please.


(Dan Belcher) #2

Rhino for Windows shows items besides the viewport. What do you consider “anything” hanging around?


#3

i did not try it but i saw that such an option would work as seen here quoting Jarek


something like NewFloatingViewport does, with the capability to show the sidebars if needed, one can show the active toolbars which can suffice but sidebars dont work and even more important to use MaxViewport and also to see the 4View viewport plus having it completely fullscreen without any document bar would be great. i would love to work like that because i dont need any of the stuff showing because i have a command for each tool and toggle for most of the stuff.

something like a normal working viewport but which would hide all those parts away as described here also seen here below now.

nr5. for example could still be visible as transparent HUD as a suggestion… like the axis symbol on the left bottom of each viewport.


#4

this would work/does work under the current implementation.
for example, you can currently do something more complex than dragging an image file into the rhino window… that being – you can drag it into the PictureFrame open dialog within a rhino window while in fullscreen.

if we could just drag an image into rhino without running the pictureFrame command, that process would be a lot simpler since you wouldn’t have to switch between rhino and the desktop (for example)… you’d just drag the image from the desktop to Rhino’s space.


idk, just making the point that the bolded part of the quote isn’t accurate… it is possible as i do it often.


#5

sure, thats a common way to use the mac but its not as handy as dragging a picture directly into the viewport.

i thought to have written that? but yes thats what i meant and would be handy.


#6

i was referring to this part:

“dragging picture frames into the viewport which hopefully also will come soon is not possible like that so sooner or later this has to be thought over anyway”

that is possible (or will be possible when the ability is added to Rhino for Mac).
for example using Pages.app… you can drag/drop a jpg from the desktop(or elsewhere) into the document while Pages is in fullscreen mode.

ie- you can switch between spaces while continuing to hold onto a file being dragged.


#7

i use exposé to get to the desktop, which i managed to switch off the animated delay completely using a terminal hack, its very fast uncomplicated. haven´t found any medicine to turn the slow blending effect between spaces and between a fullscreen and the regular desktop space off completely meaning i hardly use it because its a flow breaker and i dont want to work with those effects.

when os x got introduced or lets say exposé in its very early state working with mac was like a blizzard. now you have to hack around and still dont get fully satisfied… even easy apps like vlc offer this option to switch off native mac fullscreen and having the vlc internal fullscreen instead which you can hide with cmd H or blend away with a quick mouse swipe to open a new file.

thats why i hope for a workable rhino fullscreen without having to use the mac native option.


#8

The way full screen modes are implemented in the user interface of Adobe Lightroom would be an awesome integration.
With just a few keyboard shortcuts you are able to move from Windowed to fullscreen (not Apple’s crippled fullscreen version mind you).
Also all menu system areas can be scripted to a keyboard shortcut so you can either move them out of the way by an individual key stroke or move them out of the way / into view all at once at any time.

I mimicked this behavior as far as I could with Rhino for Mac by using the same keyboard shortcuts for the left and right side bar.

Now only missing would be:

  • fullscreen mode (to remove the window)
  • ability to slide out of view the top toolbar with a keyboard shortcut
  • ability to slide out of view the bottom statusbar with a keyboard shortcut
  • shortcuts for meaningful combinations of the above (side bars on/off, all menus on / off)

Adobe Photoshop goes even a step further and additional to the modes Lightroom offers there is even a complete working area mode bare of ANY menus to entirely focus on the object you work with.

I am predominantly working by keyboard inputs (I start most of the commands by typing - a habit that stems from using AutoCAD many, many years ago).
I only use the tool bar (left sidebar) as a means of starting commands I don’t remember in the moment (and have it customized to only hold my most used commands and a few extras that aren’t directly provided from scratch).
I use a Spacemouse all the time.
I very, very, very rarely use the menu bar in Rhino (only to type in the help menu a command I forgot where to find).

The actual menu bar should be optionally in Auto hide mode and only pop up when moving the mouse to the top of the screen like in so many productivity apps on Mac OS X - this would free up valuable screen space.

I could not imagine using Rhino only on the 15" screen of the MBP instead of the external 31".


#9

hi menos, thanks for participating yes something like photoshop has would be interesting.

just place toggleToolbarShown: in the script box of the command

you can create a new command for this, give it any name and place the following in the script box and address it with one key:

'_ToggleRightSidebar
'_ToggleLeftSidebar

i really hope that the ui gets somehow more configurable even though it has quite some options but they are sometimes not easy to get and still not quite sophisticated as you pointed out… also using tab to hide away everything like in photoshop would be great. tab is unfortunately locked… why ever… even though this is a wide spread standard on many application not only adobe but also affinity even autocad for mac at least etc…


#10

Hey Richard, thanks a lot.
I have completely forgotten that you could hide/show the toolbar (top most).
I had it mapped some years ago during the open beta phase but it broke at some point so I forgot about it.

The sidebars I have mapped and couldn’t work without this (I use CMD+LEFT and CMD+RIGHT, as I have this very same shortcut mapped to Adobe Lightroom which I use in a very similar way).

Now does anyone have an idea if the layout bar up top can be toggled in a similar fashion ?
When at my workstation I really have no need for this (have all layout and view controls mapped to the Spacemouse).
On the road though with the MBP it is helpful to have (hence a shortcut mapped to a command if existing would be super nice).