For some manual i tried to set up as much as possible in rhino layouts and i failed. i came across so many issues…
I came across so many unpleasant aspects … and i hope that my love to rhino can be seen in the following report:
details highlight
if a detail is selected - it s highlight is not front-most:
here is a selected detail - you can see it in properties but not in the view
set up
i made a simplified version - i have 4 details - each shows one step of the manual. There is some additional stuff in the layout space - represented by some random text as curves.
locked / uncentered camera
the details are locked but i need to adapt their size to have the shadow below the text - so _pointsOn for the detail and adapt it to maximum size:
doing this for all details the layout is destroyed
my wish: details should behave like Frames that crop cameras (infinite) image. In standard viewports in Model space it completely makes sense that the camera / target is always in the center of the image.
In layout / Details that does not. This issue for sure will arise with non-rectangular details in V9 (have not tested - i am on a intel mac).
- cropping behaviour of cplanes
- non - centered camera
- recenter camera
- straighten camera rotation
leave detail - enter next detail
current behaviour - if a detail is active and I double click on another detail - this detail is directly activated.
i would expect:
double click on detail → activated
double click outside - no matter where → deactivate detail, focus in layoutspace / paper.
double click on another detail → activated
so i miss a step inbetween - leaving the detail.
current behaviour feels like being beamed from one room to another without using the corridor in between. if you do not see any geometry and want to zoom out - and have an unlocke detail you destroyed your setup.
stacked details / combine raster - vector
ok there is a huge potential in combining details on top of each other.
here i stacked an Arctic Display Mode below a Copy of Technical without hidden curves
this has huge potential as it outputs raster background and vector top.
03_stacked_details.pdf (1.8 MB)
but it s nearly impossible to get it nice:
as soon as I activate one detail - drawing Order is messed up. (print order not ?)
Drawing / Printing Order
in general is discussed at many places but I still miss the best practice guide that works with all object types and describes the hierarchy (_bringToFront / _sendBack … Layers, resorted Layers etc…)
Print Width / Line Weights
the challenge would be to have the technical Display being printed at the same Print Width / Line Weight as the “just some … fancy …” Curves.
this is print display on:
that s the pdf:
pdf structure
so as I always did - we need illustrator or affinity designer (wich is free since end of october)
but my objects are set up as blocks.
and the Rhino pdf writer messes up the pdf structure with many many empty layers:
not only look at the long list - but look at the scroll bar !!!
please update the pdf writer to not create empty layers !
tangent Edges
… ok i found that - technical does not distinguish between “tangent” and general edges - why this different names ?
wireframe
technical
Display Modes Interface
I somehow managed (with a name that was to long ?) to mess up my left column with the list of Display modes. - this one is mac specific.
..reframe
Wireframe
^^missing !!!
Display Modes
… and as my document relies on display mode - it will not look the same on my colleagues machine.
I think there should be document specific display modes.
more
there is more - but i am tired of writing it all down. sorry.
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thanks for more love to layouts / drafting / …
And with more love i do not mean new features - I mean reliable everyday workflows.
sorry for being a bit angry.
thanks for having a look
kind regards - tom
layoutLovePlease.3dm (4.6 MB)












