Dimensions in 3d space

Can anyone explain to me what is happening with my dimensions? Here is a basic issue I’m having among other weird things.
I can’t seem to control my dimensions in 3d space like I could in the past. It’s like they’re projecting and also ortho constraining themselves when I don’t expect it.

In the attached image, I expect the dimension to be attached to the curves I just selected, not project to zero plane. I just can’t quite understand what is happening.

Hello - dims are always projected to the current plane as far as the dimension number itself goes - is that what you mean, or is the dimension object being projected, or? (Check the Project setting on Osnaps as well as the Planar setting in the status bar)

-Pascal

I expect that angular dimension would construct itself on the plane of the curves or objects that I snap to.

In the image below, the linear dimension is doing what I expect but the angular dims are projecting to zero instead of what I snap to.

I’m having trouble controlling leaders and aligned dimensions in 3d space also. I may get used to it, but it’s different than v5.

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Rhino 6 only puts that angular dimension on the cplane. Rhino 5 puts the angular dimension on the object you are clicking on. That’s a pretty big deal. I don’t feel like I should have to change my cplane for every dimension I add to an object in 3d space. Is there a setting somewhere or a bug?

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Not in my experience. Every dimension I’ve ever placed until Rhino 6 is projected to a plane you are snapping to.

Yep, this is a bug… thanks.
https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-45722

-Pascal

Ok, thanks Pascal

Hi @pascal

Was this issue resolved? I looked at the tracking page but I can’t understand what’s being written there.

I’m currently not able to dimension in 3D space.

Rhino 6 SR9 2018-9-28 (Rhino 6, 6.9.18271.20591, Git hash:master @ 4cf7435f08f51c972347c8558d28355cfc0471ca)
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Thx

That issue was resolved, yes, and seems to be working fine here.
Can you post a file that is not working on your end?

Expected Result:
(Blender)

Unwanted Result:
(Rhino)

Please note that the Dimaligned command does not output what the name implies - aligned dimension along two points or vertices. This makes it impossible to dimension a 3D model, which is pretty useful for fabrication or CD purposes. Also, note that the dimension shows ~4’ measurement on the 5.72’ edge because of this issue.

Dimensions in Rhino are 2D objects that need a plane to lie in. The two points you pick are not sufficient to determine a plane (you need three) and the limitation of Rhino is the third point always gets projected to the active CPlane. DimAligned will create an aligned dimension correctly, but only in the current Active CPlane.

The solution to this is therefore to create a custom CPlane that is parallel to the direction you want DimAligned to measure, then you can place the dimension as you wish. In the file below, there is a custom CPlane named Aligned1 which was used to create the aligned dimensions on the right.

AlignedCPlane.3dm (335.5 KB)

–Mitch

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I think current behavior is counterintuitive, usually if you use aligned dimensions you want those dimensions to be aligned to those points’ direction. Having to change the current CPlane is cumbersome and not easy understandable for newbies.
If what you want is to have those dimensions projected to cplane, you could always activate Project Osnap.

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Not only counter-intuitive, not any newbie limitation: I use it a lot to show gaps and features as I get then on 3D scanned meshes of curved organic parts, which come from the scanner alignment with no hope whatsoever to have any plane candidate to Cplane. This information is used to make decisions on tool modifications and corrections.

Rhino 5 would do the job with flying colors by just giving me the straight direction point to point sqrt(dx2+dy2+dz2) using _dimaligned.

I lost an important tool when I purchased this upgrade to Rhino 6 because now I’m forced to create endless constructions to get what was already there working great.
I just updated to 6.16.19190.07001 (had 6.4.18124.12321) hoping the bug mentioned by Pascal was fixed but still, same behavior.

Can’t we have our good old _dimaligned back if only as a different entry in the menu, keeping the current one (Rhino 6) for those users that approved the change?

And I second Pascal and Alan Farkas:

My read of this is that bug RH45722 was fixed for release Rhino 6.5. Probably someone here knows when 6.5 is expected.

I have gotten DimAligned to work a couple times, I just can’t seem to remember how, I didn’t define a new Cplane, not intentionally anyway.

Has this been resolved?

I am still experiencing the issue with radial dimension

Incredibly frustrating and unnecessary change

Hi - Bug RH-45722 was fixed, yes. Angular dimensions are no longer created on the CPlane.
The CPlane is still used as required input for the calculations. But as far as I can see, that was also the case in Rhino 5.
-wim

Can’t wait for the aligned 3d dimension to be implemented in the next Rhino 6 SR or in Rhino 7. It will be also very useful for taking vertical dimensions on buildings, furniture etc directly in the Perspective viewport.