Hey all
I am trying to setup a custom shortcut Alt + Q. The interface tells me that the shortcut is valid, though is it not working.
Any idea how to fix this issue? I am using a scandinavian keyboard layout.
there is something generally wrong maybe with internal mapping of keys, i am not sure, @CallumSykes has taken over ripping the guts from the shortcuts some time ago, mostly due to scandinavian layouts i believe and mostly in the area of alt and combinations i assume, but before that gets political i just wish the keyboard shortcuts would work, can not be so difficult..
maybe @wim can add something here still
i am just afraid that because of this report soon none of the alt combinations might work.
Thanks for the @ for this issue.
We’re looking into how to prevent this dead key issue entirely so that they all work.
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Let’s narrow this down a bit
- Your Rhino is in English
- Your Keyboard is in scandinavian
- Can you tell me the specific language?
- Is your machine in the scandinavian language as well or just your keyboard?
- Do you have any key mapping or shortcut software you use?
Hi Callum, thanks for taking the time to reply
- Rhino is English
- Keyboard layout is Nordisk (Danish)
- Running Windows 11 in English
- (Shortcut Software) Not to my knowledge
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And one last question, what Version of Rhino are you using? SystemInfo would be excellent 
Rhino 8 SR13 2024-11-12 (Rhino 8, 8.13.24317.13001, Git hash:master @ ca3666c3ebed2b9567e10930077bfa0884f65db9)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-11-12
License details: LAN Zoo Network Node
Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.0
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 9-13-2024 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A2000 8GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 8-30-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 561.03
> Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- Video pass-through to primary display device
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 8-30-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6103
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\forma-rhino\Rhino8\FormaRhino.rhp “FormaRhino” 0.7.14.0
C:\Users\thefri\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\BlockEditNew\BlockEditNew_V8.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Enscape\Enscape.Rhino.Plugin-net48\Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin.dll “Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin” 4.2.1.88
C:\Program Files\Chaos\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V8\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.13.24317.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.13.24317.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.13.24317.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\import_ACAD.rhp “AutoCAD file import: import_ACAD”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.13.24317.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.13.24317.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.13.24317.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
I would definitely recommend updating, your version is from November last year, there have been many fixes since then
This is correct, Alt and Alt+Shift trigger the menu bar so they’re not supported. I’m sorry your shortcut isn’t usable, the shortcut being valid in earlier versions was an error on my part.
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Is there any way to work around this? Being able to use Alt in combination with other keys would, in my case, result in a faster workflow.
As far as I know Alt keys are built into Windows and I’m not sure how we would disable this. Why alt specifically compared to other modifiers?
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Shift cannot be used alone, ctrl is already stacked with commands.
Alt being the next best thing, and I also really like Alt’s position on the keyboard.
Coming from 3ds Max I have some short cuts I would love to replicate in Rhino, some are using Alt. Just makes it easier to switch between the two programs.
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I’ve created a ticket so this can be looked into, it would be good if we could make more modifiers possible on Windows.
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i can only repeat, that other apps are not affected by these shortcomings, every single app i use allows me to freely choose any combination with alt as shortcut, alt q alt r alt whatnot. in rhino now not anymore.
that is the exact reason why probably many (me at least for sure) were using alt for a long time in Rhino, coming from the Mac side that was never an issue as until some time ago.
here a topic from about 4 month ago v8-shortcuts-again-alt-r-suddenly-not-working that touched this issue of alt suddenly not working anymore for some combinations.
i am a bit riddled how to understand that, alt was working long before you entered the developers team.
also
from the topic i linked here above, that topic is from 3 month ago,
has the discussion been ongoing for more more than 3 month now without any result? is there any news or thats it, will it just stay that internal discussion! may i ask who else is involved?
i am really sorry if that comes across very penetrating (right so anyway) but we need our keyboard back.
Keep in mind the poster is asking about Windows, and your issue relates to Mac, the two systems are completely different when it comes to handling shortcuts. Alt was not possible in Rhino 7 windows due to Alt activating the Menu Bar.
There’s a ticket to look into it but it’s one of those deep in the weeds tickets so I can’t say for sure when there will be an update.
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ic, my apologies, i am getting brainlessly triggered on that topic already, hopefully proof to how important that is 
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