Is this laptop “strong” enough to run rhino?
HP 15-eh2085cl
AMD Ryzen 5825U
16Gb ram
You should also share what you intend to do. Also maybe post a link to the laptop so we can see the full specs. Rhino has a high ceiling and becomes more hardware intense towards the upper reaches of that ceiling. You can actually get away with low specs if you avoid certain things but I don’t recommend that.
Renderings and Ray Tracing will really test your hardware. I personally use Rhino for things that most people use Sketchup for. If I stick to “Sketchup” style tasks, the load on my hardware is similar to Sketchup. Even on my old laptop I could model stuff just fine. Working with textures in realistic, rendered and ray traced display modes was a no-no.
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“Strong enough” depends on what you want to design in it, how large you want your renders, how much you use GPU Cycles real-time rendering.
By the “U” designation, it’s still a low-power CPU. That goes for both Intel and AMD.
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U. I should think, that CPU could plow through spreadsheets and wordprocessor documents. Still I am more worried about the GPU, and future RAM expand-ability, than the CPU, in this case.
Edit: the GPU is integrated on the CPU. I am sorry that I don’t know how well modern AMD integrated low-power GPUs work under design/CAD workloads, likely better than Intel’s, but that isn’t saying much. I am concerned because that only has 15 watts to work with for both CPU and GPU. For gaming, the CPU is lightly stressed when the GPU is working. Not so while doing design; when you rotate an object, it stresses both the CPU and GPU.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-5000-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.539159.0.html
For serious Rhino stuff on a Laptop, I generally would either steer someone toward either a gaming machine, or a “mobile workstation,” which is basically a gaming machine in a business suit.
But, you will likely consider your budget?
Are you sure you want a glossy screen for design?
As Keithscadservices stated, a lot of it depends on what you want to make.
I truly, deeply love Costco but it’s rarely a place to get an actual great deal on a computer.
I’d advise against any integrated GPU. It may save you hundreds of dollars but you will feel the pain once you lose a feature or you get slowdown / crashes or overall sluggishness.
Another thing is the RAM. You need at least 32GB to be able to work efficiently.
I personally use way more than 32gb especially during zoom meetings when you are sharing screen looking at cut sheets with Bluebeam revu. Some web links of products being open and of course your model is loaded (and some Grasshopper things as well)
A third factor in laptop is the design / engeering of the thermal. Many laptops shows great features on paper but perform poorly due to thermal throttling or even worse thermal buildup that it can kill your expensive components.
I killed 2 laptop previously due to long renders and since then I switched to desktop PCs that I can cool it properly.
A good computer is always a great investment. IMHO
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I just want to share an update. I’ve been doing more rendering and working with lights lately. I would say that if I knew I would have been doing this earlier, I may have bought a better laptop (I’m using a carefully selected gaming laptop that would retail for around $1,100 USD - I’ll post actual specs upon request).
Rendering and ray tracing are a bit slow. Realistic and Rendered view styles really slow down when I start adding more than one or two lights. I can definitely still work like this but my productivity would have been much higher if I spent an extra, say, $400 USD. But… to be honest, visuals aren’t even my field. I bought Rhino for the 3D modelling but it’s just proved useful in other areas as well.
Here’s the other topic so you can get an idea of what I’m working on:
Ordinarily, I model concrete high-rise buildings (including underground parking). Even if the model gets a little large I don’t suffer much performance loss. But even just a small room with physically-based materials and lights… lag starts to come into play. Food for thought.
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simply stated NO. avoid these integrated graphics laptops. unless you are doing the very simplest of stuff.
Well yeah, that stuff takes exponentially more work, actual animated movies made for tens of millions rendered on datacenters worth of computers only started actually using such brute-force realistic effects not that long ago…Big Hero 6 notably used global illumination. The good thing is that if you want more speed you can just throw more CUDA cores at it, which is arguably better bang for your buck than CPU cores. And it’s arguably cheaper than the time spent fine-tuning the ‘hacks’ older render systems use to approximate such effects.
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