Clicking on the tabs in the WIP crashes Rhino

Serengeti (Rhino WIP)
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With all of the discussion on toolbars and tabs in the WIP I wanted to see how, or if, my V7 toolbars would work in the WIP. They did not. As soon as a picked on a tab, or tried to scroll, the WIP would crash Rhino to the desktop. So I removed the V7 toolbar, and now the default tabs crash Rhino too. I tried safe mode, and the same thing. I’ve got the latest graphics driver installed but still no luck. I’ve sent numerous crash reports in, so hopefully that helps. Here is my system info.

Rhino 9 SR0 2025-11-18 (Rhino WIP, 9.0.25322.06305, Git hash:master @ cf5be2a1f23b6f0cc1daf2713f75fdbd125005f5)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-11-18
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2026-01-02

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET Framework 4.8.9310.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration using OpenGL
Primary display: NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB (NVidia) Memory: 12GB, Driver date: 10-29-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL(4.6.0 NVIDIA 581.80)

Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)

  • Secondary monitor attached to adapter port 0
  • Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 1
  • Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #2

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-29-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.8180
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 12282 MB

OpenBLAS: OpenBLAS 0.3.29 DYNAMIC_ARCH NO_AFFINITY Haswell MAX_THREADS=64.

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Bongo 2.0 (64-bit)\Rhino6\Bongo.20.rhp “Bongo 2.0”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\UpdatesAndStatistics\UpdatesAndStatistics.rhp “UpdatesAndStatistics” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 9.0.25322.6305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

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Can you message me the email you used for the crashes you sent? That’ll help me find them and look into this :slight_smile:

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Message sent.

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Could you zip up and PM me this folder %APPDATA%\McNeel\Rhinoceros\9.0. After that if you rename it to 9.0_bak you should in theory be able to continue using the WIP.

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Hi Callum,

The zipped file was too big to drop here, so I uploaded it to OneDrive. Here is the link:

Public

Thanks,

Dan

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Hi Dan,

That version of the WIP came out b*ggered (several threads about it) there have been two further releases in quick succession as McNeel try to unravel the issues. I’d suggest trying the latest version. May have nothing to do with your toolbars, but will avoid more serious issues (e.g. model elements vanishing).

Regards
Jeremy

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Hi Jeremy,

I have the very latest. Callum has me up and running again. He’s taking a look at the cause. I’ve narrowed it down to the Scheme_Default\containers.xml file, but I’ll leave it with him as to what’s wrong inside that xml file.

Thanks,

Dan