Leaders are not working after the lates update.
Hi Homer -
I’m afraid I have no idea what that means. Does the command run an error? Does Rhino crash?
Please provide a description of the issue, specific steps to reproduce it, and the output from the Rhino SystemInfo command.
-wim
Hi Wim, the issue is that after the most recent update of Rhino the Leaders are not working properly when used in the Layout (Paperspace).
After setting the points the popup for the text dos not appear and the leader itself is not shown/made.
Rhino 8 SR20 2025-5-20 (Rhino 8, 8.20.25140.13001, Git hash:master @ 8a2d7399032b23f94c02f95700abf0754402683b)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-05-20
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 8.0.16
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 10-20-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 566.07
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-20-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6607
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\System\netcore\export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
Hi Homer,
I just gave your instructions (added a leader to a layout) a go with no issues.
Lets start by running the Reset command and go back to Factory settings.
If that is not doing it then go to Add Remove Programs and do a Modify>Repair install
Same problem here. After setting leader points in model space and pressing enter/space/right click, the leader command interrupts and nothing happens. The Command prompt gets empty and is waiting for the next command.
Also, double click on text/leader/dimension does not open the pop-up window for editing, everything needs to be edit in the Properties window.
This bug is quite odd since it looks like there is a certain “leader quota” or “double-click quota”. After opening a file and setting a few leaders (say 10, but not much more), the bug awakens and does not allow for drawing or double-click editing more leaders. Same quota for double-click text/dimensions. I have to reopen the file and enjoy the privilege to draw/edit the next 10 leaders/text/dimensions before having to reopen the file again.
If I reset or repair install Rhino, do I lose all of my Rhino settings, toolbars, plugins etc.? I am not sure that I want to spend days to be able to use Rhino fluent again.
Rhino 8 SR20 2025-5-20 (Rhino 8, 8.20.25140.13001, Git hash:master @ 8a2d7399032b23f94c02f95700abf0754402683b)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-05-20
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 8.0.16
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000 (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 5-12-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 573.24
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-12-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.7324
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 4.27.1.0
C:\Users\hp\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\TeDAsharp (ce983e9d-72de-4a79-8832-7c374e6e26de)\1.0.8405.22062\TeDaSharp_060.rhp “TeDAsharp” 1.0.8405.22062
C:\Program Files\SimLab\Plugins\SimLab PDF From Rhino\SimLabPDFExporter.rhp “SimLab PDF Exporter”
C:\Users\hp\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\BlockEditNew\BlockEditNew_V8.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.20.25140.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Hi Hrvoje -
Resetting will make you lose customizations. Repairing an installation, or uninstalling 8.20 and installing 8.19 will not.
That said, it sounds like you might be running into a somewhat different issue than what the original poster of this thread was reporting. Perhaps you are running into this bug that was recently fixed:
→ RH-87550 Annotation Leader: Crash on creating 17th leader
If that is the case, a new public 8.20 release candidate will be released in a few hours from now. If you can test that in the morning and let us know if that is indeed fixed, that would be great.
-wim
Great, thanks a lot.
The post was the first that I ran into, didn’t know that there was another one addressing my bug more precisely.
It seems working now, there was not a single leader or double-click refusal the whole day long.
Thanks for solving it.