Anyone noticed selections are unreliable in V8? Clicks get missed

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I thought this initially was because I’m using the rendered mode a lot in this project (my first V8 project), but I just had this happen using the shaded mode too!

When it happens, I need to alter the camera angle and click on my surfaces again to actually get a selection (and so far, it’s only surfaces).

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Maybe it’s not just the camera, but something with adding to an existing selection?

I managed to capture this, which is me shift clicking around a surface I’m not able to select, until I accidentally select the background have to de-select everything and then I’m allowed to add it to the selection…

GIF

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Yes, I also get the following problems:

  • Refusal of foreground selection (as this displays).
  • Refusal to select edges.
  • Selection box sometimes selects only objects entirely enclosed, sometimes includes those partially enclosed.
  • Randomly will select objects utterly in the background only, ignoring foreground.
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Thank you for confirming!

Now that I look at the video I posted, it does appear as if the click which causes everything in the background to get selected is a correct click on that surface, so maybe I actually managed to capture that happening as well!

I just had another instance of this happen where a leader absolutely refused to get selected until I hit esc (but no tool/command was active)…

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Pls post a model in the position that you see this issue happening in, and, as always _SystemInfo,
Thanks.

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@eobet @David53

It will be very helpful if you can send the model in the exact camera position when this happens again, thanks

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I have also noticed this, especially when shift-selecting multiple objects.

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Selection Bug.3dm (429.3 KB)
In this file in current camera view.

Click the red object (selects normally).
Click it again in the same place (deselects the object as though I clicked the background).

Rhino 8 SR15 2024-12-3 (Rhino 8, 8.15.24338.10001, Git hash:master @ 1c140c6af196d6cc0dc11d8f781198912e87de59)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-12-03
License details: LAN Zoo Network Node

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 112GB)
.NET 7.0.16

Computer platform: DESKTOP 

Standard graphics configuration.
  Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro K5000 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 6-10-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 475.14
    > Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
        - Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
  Safe mode: Off
  Use accelerated hardware modes: On
  GPU Tessellation is: On
  Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
  Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU's maximum)
  
  Anti-alias mode: 2x
  Mip Map Filtering: Linear
  Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
  
  Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render version: 4.6
  Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
  Driver Date: 6-10-2024
  Driver Version: 30.0.14.7514
  Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
  Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
  Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
  Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	8.15.24338.10001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp	"WebBrowser"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp	"RhinoScript"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp	"IdleProcessor"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	8.15.24338.10001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp	"Legacy Rhino Render"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	8.15.24338.10001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	8.15.24338.10001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	8.15.24338.10001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	8.15.24338.10001
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"
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I cannot reproduce that behavior here. I tried on both Mac and Windows. Does it matter for you where on the object you click?

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Basically anywhere in the faces. Clicking the edges behaves normally.

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@Measure we can’t seem to reproduce that here. Can you run _Reset, hit the “save settings for support” and send over the resulting zip? Maybe that reveals something.

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RhinoSettingsForSupport.zip (540.6 KB)

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@Measure that didn’t reveal anything unfortunately.

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Here’s mine:

RhinoSettingsForSupport.zip (1.4 MB)

Also, this just happened:

GIF

I can’t share the file, but what’s happening is this:

  1. Two curves are added to the selection
  2. Then, several very large objects refuse to be added to the selection when you click on them
  3. Until you find an object that can be added to the selection, then everything else starts to work
  4. (And if you de-select that object which worked by control clicking, the other object again refuse to be added.)
  5. Or you click on the edge of an object, since that also seemingly always works

So, unfortunately, while it’s random that this happens, when it happens the behavior is very consistent until you change the camera angle.