After a while the main View menu stops working

[jmcauley]

After a while the main View menu stops working.

I can select a command and click on it but then nothing happens. It’s as if I hadn’t clicked it.

Sometimes I get one view change then I have to switch to the named views panel to select a different view.

Switching view types also fails. I can switch to one view type (for instance) wireframe then that’s my lot. I couldn’t switch back to shaded or pick a new view.

Those are the things I have noticed. I couldn’t say if any other menu is broken, or any other view commands. These are just the ones that I have noticed.

I am using: 8.1.23325.13001, 2023-11-21

[pascal (Pascal Golay)]

Hello- please run the SystemInfo command in Rhino and Copy/Paste the results here.

-Pascal

[jmcauley]

Rhino 8 SR1 2023-11-21 (Rhino 8, 8.1.23325.13001, Git hash:master @ 8a4a437248efac5d9cb04d3904481b83e4c23a64)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-11-21
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 1.3e+02Gb)
.NET 7.0.14

Computer platform: DESKTOP (Hosting Remote Desktop session)

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display: Microsoft Remote Display Adapter (Microsoft) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 6-21-2006 (M-D-Y).
> Remote Desktop display device with 16 connection(s)
- Windows Main Display using connection #0
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A6000 (NVidia) Memory: 48GB, Driver date: 10-18-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.70
> Accelerated graphics device with 0 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-18-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3770
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 49140 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Bongo 2.0 (64-bit)\Rhino6\Bongo.20.rhp “Bongo 2.0”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[pascal (Pascal Golay)]

Thanks - And if not on remote desktop - does it work as expected?

-Pascal

[jmcauley]

I will find out, though sometimes it can take a while to fall over, but it’s usually quick.

[jmcauley]

I had to go but when I came back I used the computer that I RDPed onto, but I used it directly with as monitor directly attached to it.

Took 2 minutes to get it to break.

But this app was opened via RDP a few hours ago, and the system info still says RDP, even though I am directly logged into the device and using a TV, directly attached via hdmi (well, technically display port).

I will close Rhino and try again, if system info still says RDP then I will restart the computer.

Anyway, here is the system info, as reported by this Rhino session (Does Rhino collect it at start-up?)

Rhino 8 SR1 2023-11-21 (Rhino 8, 8.1.23325.13001, Git hash:master @ 8a4a437248efac5d9cb04d3904481b83e4c23a64)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-11-21
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 1.3e+02Gb)
.NET 7.0.14

Computer platform: DESKTOP (Hosting Remote Desktop session)

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display: Microsoft Remote Display Adapter (Microsoft) Memory: 0MB, Driver date: 6-21-2006 (M-D-Y).
> Remote Desktop display device with 16 connection(s)
- Windows Main Display using connection #0
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A6000 (NVidia) Memory: 48GB, Driver date: 10-18-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.70
> Accelerated graphics device with 0 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-18-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3770
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 49140 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Bongo 2.0 (64-bit)\Rhino6\Bongo.20.rhp “Bongo 2.0”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[jmcauley]

Left the computer on, just closed Rhino and restarted.

Got it to break, took about ten mins of messing around, toggling shaded mode, viewport by view menu and the named views menu.

System settings don’t mention RDP.

Rhino 8 SR1 2023-11-21 (Rhino 8, 8.1.23325.13001, Git hash:master @ 8a4a437248efac5d9cb04d3904481b83e4c23a64)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-11-21
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 1.3e+02Gb)
.NET 7.0.14

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A6000 (NVidia) Memory: 48GB, Driver date: 10-18-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.70
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-18-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3770
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 49140 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Bongo 2.0 (64-bit)\Rhino6\Bongo.20.rhp “Bongo 2.0”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.1.23325.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[pascal (Pascal Golay)]

Hello- so is the upshot that the problem occurs when Remote Desktop is not invloved at all?

-Pascal

[jmcauley]

Yeh, system info says no RDP and I am at the computer now, no RDP.

I was playing around and noticed that:

• the viewport tabs still switch viewports
• the icons on the named views panel work
• the main view menu, Undo View Change item works
• the main view menu item, wireframe command worked once after stuff had been broken.
• and I noticed that, somehow, the _Ellipse command had been invoked, somehow. There wasn’t a toolbar item visible for it that I could have accidently pressed. Are the wrong commands being emitted?!? Do you use lamdas, or command classes, or enums? Weird routing issues?

[pascal (Pascal Golay)]

Hello- this certainly does not sound normal… if Rhino is still open, can you capture the command history (F2)?

-Pascal

[jmcauley]

Enabled automatic CPlane alignment
Loading Bongo 2.0 for Rhino 6.0 version Feb 12 2019 10:00:39
Loading Legacy Rhino Render, version 1.50, Nov 21 2023, 13:15:28
Successfully read file “C:\Users\User\Dropbox\sharedRhinos\Rhino8\pylons-scale1d-000005a.3dm”
Creating meshes… Press Esc to cancel
Command: _SystemInfo
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Command
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Command
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Display mode set to “Arctic”.
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Command
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Display mode set to “Wireframe”.
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Display mode set to “Wireframe”.
Command
Display mode set to “Ghosted”.
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Command
Display mode set to “Wireframe”.
Command: -_NamedView
Choose named view option ( List Save Restore Delete Rename Import TabVisibility WidgetVisibility ): _Restore
Named view to restore ( RestoreAspectRatio=No Animate=Disabled ): “v3”
Choose named view option ( List Save Restore Delete Rename Import TabVisibility WidgetVisibility ): _Enter
Choose named view option ( List Save Restore Delete Rename Import TabVisibility WidgetVisibility )
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Display mode set to “Arctic”.
Command
Display mode set to “Shaded”.
Command: -_NamedView
Choose named view option ( List Save Restore Delete Rename Import TabVisibility WidgetVisibility ): _Restore
Named view to restore ( RestoreAspectRatio=No Animate=Disabled ): “v0”
Choose named view option ( List Save Restore Delete Rename Import TabVisibility WidgetVisibility ): _Enter
Choose named view option ( List Save Restore Delete Rename Import TabVisibility WidgetVisibility )
Command: _SystemInfo
Command
Command: _UndoView
Command: _UndoView
Command: _Ellipse
Ellipse center ( Deformable Vertical Corner Diameter FromFoci AroundCurve )
Command: _UndoView
Display mode set to “Wireframe”.
Command: _CommandHistory

[jmcauley]

The Curve menu is right next to the View menu, maybe I had butter fingers, I duuno.