Zoom problems in parallel views V7 SRC21

martinsiegrist · August 4, 2022, 9:07pm

I’ve been having this problem recently where _Zoom _Extents and other zoom commands only work in the Perspective viewport. In Top, Front and Right View _Zoom _Extents zooms out way too far and I need to zoom in manually to see my objects.

Rhino 7, latest Service Release Candidate

Rhino 7 SR21 2022-7-27 (Rhino 7, 7.21.22208.13001, Git hash:master @ c31aea87137a5d0de449338a7ef6856f49dd4797)
License type: Kommerziell, build 2022-07-27
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 1.3e+02Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A5000 (NVidia) Memory: 22GB, Driver date: 7-21-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 516.94
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

Secondary graphics devices.
NVIDIA Quadro K2200 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 7-21-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-21-2022
Driver Version: 31.0.15.1694
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 23028 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\martinsiegrist\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin (ecfe8d1f-876a-460f-aa5e-3dd816936811)\1.4.0.0\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin\Rhino 7\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot9RhinoPlugin” 1.4.0.0
C:\Users\martinsiegrist\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\EleFront\4.2.2\ElefrontProperties.rhp “ElefrontProperties” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.21.22208.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.21.22208.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.21.22208.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.21.22208.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.21.22208.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.21.22208.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

Tried in Rhino WIP and it works as expected.

Compared settings in Rhino 7 and WIP but I couldn’t find what’s causing my problem yet?

Was hoping someone can help me…

zoom_problem.3dm (47.8 KB)

John_Brock · August 4, 2022, 9:25pm

By some unknown cause, the viewports in that file are damaged.
Right-mouse click on the 4Views icon in the Standard tabbed toolbar to replace your viewports with 4 default ones.

Any luck?

martinsiegrist · August 4, 2022, 9:27pm

Unfortunately not. Also that file was a fresh file where I just drew a box.

This file here was created in Rhino WIP, where zooming works correctly. I exported it as Rhino 7 file, opened in Rhino 7 and zooming failed again.

zoom_problem_.3dm (156.6 KB)

John_Brock · August 4, 2022, 9:32pm

I opened the file in V7.
I could not find anything specifically wrong with it.
I expected there would be stray geometry off in space but there wasn’t any.
I ran ZEA and had the same problem you did.
SO I replaced the Viewports as described in my first post and then Zooming worked fine.

martinsiegrist · August 4, 2022, 9:36pm

It happens with all my files and no matter what geometry.

John_Brock · August 4, 2022, 9:39pm

If you do the same steps in V7 SR20 do you see the problem?

If not, what are the steps in the V8 WIP you are following?
What does SystemInfo report in the WIP?

martinsiegrist · August 4, 2022, 9:45pm

I have V7 SR20 on my laptop and it works fine

System info laptop workstation

Rhino 7 SR20 2022-6-21 (Rhino 7, 7.20.22172.15001, Git hash:master @ 3f9e687cf856ce235640aab13689e58e25e59460)
License type: Kommerziell, build 2022-06-21
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Unplugged [91% battery remaining] ~43 minutes left

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) HD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 10-7-2019 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro P4000 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 5-23-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 516.25
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-23-2022
Driver Version: 31.0.15.1625
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\martinsiegrist\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin (ecfe8d1f-876a-460f-aa5e-3dd816936811)\1.0.0.0\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin\Rhino 5.0\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot9RhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.20.22172.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.20.22172.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.20.22172.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Alerter.rhp “Alerter”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.20.22172.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.20.22172.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.20.22172.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

In WIP, all I did is open the files I have posted above and right click _Zoom _Extents

System info WIP

Rhino 8 SR0 2022-8-2 (Rhino WIP, 8.0.22214.12305, Git hash:master @ 47fa6a6c73985294a953bc9a5820c55310888766)
License type: Kommerziell, build 2022-08-02
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2022-09-16

Windows 10 (10.0.19044 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 1.3e+02Gb)

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A5000 (NVidia) Memory: 22GB, Driver date: 7-21-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 516.94
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

Secondary graphics devices.
NVIDIA Quadro K2200 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 7-21-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-21-2022
Driver Version: 31.0.15.1694
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 23028 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\martinsiegrist\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin (ecfe8d1f-876a-460f-aa5e-3dd816936811)\1.4.0.0\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin\Rhino 7\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot9RhinoPlugin” 1.4.0.0
C:\Users\martinsiegrist\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\grasshoppercmd\6.0.0+0\GrasshopperCMD.rhp “GrasshopperCMD” 6.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Constraints.rhp “Constraints”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoRoslyn.rhp “RhinoRoslyn” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCPython.rhp “RhinoCPython” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.0.22214.12305
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 8.0.22214.12305

John_Brock · August 4, 2022, 9:53pm

I’ve moved your message to the Serengeti category where it will be seen by other users running the WIP.

Hopefully someone else can repeat the problem and together we can zero in on the cause.

martinsiegrist · August 4, 2022, 9:55pm

Thanks. However the problem is not in WIP. It is in Rhino 7 SR21

John_Brock · August 4, 2022, 9:57pm

Sorry, I misunderstood your details.
I’m running V7 SR22 (an in-house testing build) with no problems.

If there were a general problem in the SRC, a lot of people would be reporting it.
That tells me it’s something specific with your setup.

I’ve moved it back to the Rhino category.

martinsiegrist · August 4, 2022, 9:57pm

All good. I’ll update as soon as I can and will post again.

pascal · August 4, 2022, 10:23pm

Hi Martin - so far I have not been able to reproduce the problem here in our latest.
@martinsiegrist - what is SetZoomExtentsBorder set to?

-Pascal

John_Brock · August 4, 2022, 10:30pm

Default setting:

Command: SetZoomExtentsBorder
Zoom extents border scale ( ParallelView=1.1 PerspectiveView=1 )

martinsiegrist · August 5, 2022, 5:48am

Thanks John and Pascal for the help. That was it!

I’ve been using a script in Grasshopper to zoom to filtered sets of geometry maybe that was causing this problem? In any way I have no clue where I changed the SetZoomExtentsBorder.