Working in Layouts is getting constantly worse

We’re getting more and more problems in layouts. First, there is the known issue that objects behind transparent materials disappear randomly. Then working in layout is getting constantly slower while adding viewports, especially adding clipping plane views slows down the performance. Editing text and dimensions has always a delay, which is getting worse in more complex layouts. This happens on midrange computers, but also on very fast workstations. No difference is noticeable. In the last months, there is the phenomenon that surfaces in the viewports are suddenly displayed black or white, although they have still the correct color in the model view. Working in the layouts becomes more and more difficult since the last updates until it is not usable. Is an update planned that fixes these issues?

open rhino type systeminfo and post the result-

Hi here the Systeminfo:

Rhino 7 SR13 2021-11-30 (Rhino 7, 7.13.21334.13001, Git hash:master @ 4275265ba70641a6d148f4b55af957ba6c20e788)
License type: Kommerziell, Build 2021-11-30
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10.0.19043 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-1-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 7-7-2021 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 471.35
> Integrated accelerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-7-2021
Driver Version:
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\barre\AppData\Local\Programs\Enscape\Bin64\Enscape.Rhino7.Plugin.dll “Enscape.Rhino7.Plugin” 0.0.21207.1011
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V6\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\Users\barre\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\6.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin (ecfe8d1f-876a-460f-aa5e-3dd816936811)\\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin\Rhino 5.0\KeyShot9RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot9RhinoPlugin”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.13.21334.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Users\barre\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SectionTools\2021.4.30.511\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

if you go to tools>options>plugins>plugins that do not ship with rhino temporarily disable enscape and vray, does it get better?


disabling the Plugins does not change anything. It seems to be connected to the property bar.
If the property bar is not open everything goes smooth. But if the Bar is open it takes 2-3sec to update the property window when a text/annotation is clicked, same after unselecting. Only moving the text takes 4-6sec with open property bar.

Hi @barrento,

Can you share a 3dm file that you feel is “slow”? If so, then also provide instructions on how to repeat the “slowness”.


– Dale

I found out that it helps to minimise the number of activated fonts in the Windows folder. However, this is a bit inconvenient because as a designer you need many fonts and switching them on and off creates extra work. Now it is not completely smooth, but a lot better. However when the property bar is open, there is still a delay and its getting worse when more viewports and annotations are used in the Layoutview. This happens in every file we create.