Way to Disable Save Embedded Texture Defaults with Small Save?

[Brenda]

I have done nearly all of my saves, since starting to use Rhino, as small saves.
Lately, the default to save textures (in folder) on Save Small has been causing problems.

I keep all the textures for a project–with the project.
At one time, it was possible to do an incremental-save-small (without textures) but that has been broken for some time.

[Brenda]

I think the problem is: saving small now wants you to save the textures.

So, now Saving Small, which is no longer small has to be done by Saving, which means that the file dialog must now adjusted for every save. Sigh. : (

Even if you “Save” manually and choose “Save Small,” it will not remember your choice. What a disimprovement.

[JimCarruthers]

So wait what’s happening exactly? It’s saving the textures when you savesmall?

I went in to the advanced options and turned off everything to so with embedding textures. I don’t think it was doing that for me, but I indeed got sick of every SaveAs or Export asking for the blasted feature that just guarantees it will eventually lose track of the textures. Too bad I can’t do the same to just take away the option to ever NOT SaveSmall.

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi -

@Brenda

Even if you “Save” manually and choose “Save Small,” it will not remember your choice. What a disimprovement.

It appears to be an ongoing discussion; RH-80331 Save - keep the texture setting

You should be able to make a macro to save small without textures and use that from a button, a keyboard shortcut, or an alias.
-wim

[Brenda]

It is more difficult to do a save small–without textures than it was before. Now, if you want to one, you always have to go through the complete dialog.

Some time ago, someone had written a script to incremental-save-small, but apparently, the underlying functionality was broken in a later build.

In the spirit of versioning, when I work on a project, I do an additional save each day it is worked on–and just before major changes.

Every single save I have ever done in Rhino 3D–has been save small with no textures, as they are all in the folders with the projects, as they should be.

[Brenda]

The problem is exasperated: even if you do a Save with Save Small without textures saved, Rhino doesn’t remember, or doesn’t check the file attributes or payload.

Does anyone really want to do a Save Small–with embedded textures?

[Brenda]

This design flaw is a persistent problem for me. If it even remembered my choice from last time, it would not be so bad. If to a CTRL-S, the sidecars are saved–even if I asked to not save them last time. Ick!

So, every file save must be done through the Save-As menu, and then I need to uncheck everything, and if I make even one mistake, I have to delete the sidecar folder–and then find the textures next time.

Saving with textures might be good for people who do a small project, but with a large project with multiple version, or if a document trail is necessary–then save with textures become quite a mess.

I have 365 version of the same project, using the same textures. The files are quite manageable as save-small, later to put into 7zip archives, but with the sidecar folders, it would be unmanageable.

And here are some other people who really want to save small-without textures.

Please allow to say "no" to saving textures to the Rhino file

Fine, I’m glad - so we can reverting back.

And here is another:

Save Texture

How did I let Rhino 8 know that I don’t want to save the texture ever? I need this option to be disabled all the time, but Rhino keeps activating it. Rhino 7 remember my choice and respect it. [image]

And another:

Bug in V6 with inserted files and "Save textures" setting

V6 makes massive files if inserted files have textures and the default setting of “Save textures” is on. In other words: A master file shall NOT store the textures of linked files. This is easy to duplicate: 1- make a new file and insert an image. 2- save files as XREF-image (or something else ;)) 3- make a new file and insert the XREF-image file as LINKED [image] 4- don’t add anything else and save file as MASTER 5- check MASTER file’s file size and see that it rather big. 6- now go ba…

More happines, not:

Save textures on , off

How can i set default off “Save textures” ? I know this setting from file/Save as. But i cannot find way to do this default. I often save "cltr+S " . or could i set “save as” short cut ?

This the thread where the incremental Save small, was made impossible because of a change.

V6 Incremental Save Small Button

It appears to save small–once. Not being distracted by anything, was one of the virtues of the save small button. [It might be possible to write a button script that also 7.zip’s the Rhino file. Rhino files generally 7zip compress down to 20% of their original size.]

I am sorry, but is an exception to Rhino 3D’s excellent user interface. Save small should save small by default and get fluffy as an option : )

[Holo]

@Brenda

Save small should save small by default and get fluffy as an option : )

This will stand as a quote for future generations, a totem of good logic. AI’s will be trained on pureness like this.

[Brenda]

(Bows, demurely, needlessly using two adverbs.)

[Brenda]

In this thread, I have considered, posting screenshots of the dialogue boxes that need to be changed, about 10 a day. : P

[mutarq]

Hi there!.. I really need also to be able to disable the “texture” when _save and _savesmall … At least in my workflow… if ever needed to share a file with textures I would then go to "_saveas

Is there any possibility to check or uncheck the rhino save options … like user preferences?

[mutarq]

Following this thread. I found that actually it is solved already. for my workflow it works.

Solved (or answered) by [Andrew Le Bihan] https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-80331
Commented 12 months ago

Actually - it already exists: Search for “NeverEmbedFiles” in the advanced settings.

[mutarq]

(well partially solved… the NeverEmbedFiles, actually removes completely the ability to embed the textures even in a SaveAS… so I will need to turn on and off depending the situation) …

[Brenda]

No, last I checked, it still wanted to save texture folders.

It used to work, then I guess someone forget to save their textures, which really doesn’t work if you are working on anything large–so anyone who needs either an accounting of their work, makes changes with broad brushstrrokes–is hobbled by this, daily.

What a cumbersome “Save Small”

Save small should be–just that. I also did not one but two articles, showing that 7zip will compress Rhino 3D files–to about 20% of their size, and that is in a non-solid archive.